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Hi guys smiley1.gif :RpS_rolleyes:

I want to ask a few question about Christian Protestant

In Christian Protestant, human fall into sin destroys the relation to God. How to redeem this damaged situation? what is the sign that someone is already saved? Could you please explain it?

Okayy that's all! Thank you guyss wahahaha smiley36.gif :RpS_w00t:

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Ephesians 2:1-10 NASB

And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly
in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves,
it is
the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.


Romans 10:8-11 NASB

But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus
Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.”



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God brings us back to him. By Christ imputed rightieosness to us and subsitutionary attonmennt we're reconciled by faith.

If someone is saved then they behave like it. They will have the fruits of the Spirit ( Gal. 5:22-23) and they will obey Christ. ( Jonh 14:15.)


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Hi guys smiley1.gif :RpS_rolleyes:

I want to ask a few question about Christian Protestant

In Christian Protestant, human fall into sin destroys the relation to God. How to redeem this damaged situation? what is the sign that someone is already saved? Could you please explain it?

Okayy that's all! Thank you guyss wahahaha smiley36.gif :RpS_w00t:


Hello deadpirate, first off, WELCOME TO CF :RpS_smile:


As for your questions, you've already received a couple of great replies, but I'll throw in my 2 cents as well.


Our fallen nature/broken relationship w/God is something that our first parents made into a reality for us all (though we have all continued what they only began for us by choosing to sin personally, again and again and again). BTW, this is something that both Protestants and Catholics believe.


Redemption is found in Christ by grace alone through faith alone in the works that He did for us/on our behalf. IOW, in His life, His death, and His resurrection, and in the belief that God will choose to save us on that basis alone .. through faith/trust in Him .. just like He promised us that He would. Jesus is therefore our only innocence, our only righteousness, and the atoning sacrifice/payment for our sins .. cf John 14:6; Acts 4:12.


Here are a few verses to consider:

Romans 5

8 God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.

10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.


2 Corinthians 5

21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.


Hebrews 9

22 All things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.


1 Peter 1

18 You were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers,

19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.


As far as evidence for salvation is concerned, I think Innerfire brought up the principle evidence that we have, our behavior. Christians (typically) "act" like Christians.


However, if someone who claims to be a Christian 1. continues on/quickly returns to the sinful behavior/sinful lifestyle they were involved in prior to making that claim and 2. does not have a 24/7 desire to obey and please God in all that they do/say/think and 3. is not hurt/reviled by sin when they do commit it, and they do not immediately repent and seek forgiveness for it from God, then I would say that this person's claim of having become a Christian is nothing more than that, a "claim".


Some are deceivers, but many others are themselves deceived about the validity of their salvation, which is a frightening thing to be sure .. e.g. Matthew 7:22-23; Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43.


Additional questions? Please don't hesitate to ask them. And again, welcome to CF!


In Christ,









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