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Verse citation erros in the BDAG (3rd Edition)

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I would first like to say that the BDAG (3rd Edition) is a very good lexicon of the New Testament. I think though that it would be a useful thread to some (many?) in pointing out the errors in the BDAG (3rd Edition) when it comes to an incorrect verse citation. I have found a few but I would like to edit this post if/when I find more. If others find any feel free to give an example or examples and I will also edit this post to keep the examples organized. I will acknowledge your username when doing so.



1. 1 Peter 2:4

And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God. (NASB)

The Greek word for "coming" is proserchomai προσέρχομαι (Strong's #4334). The BDAG (3rd Edition) cites it as appearing in 1 Peter 2:3 (page 878).


2. 1 Peter 3:15

but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence. (NASB)

The Greek word for "reverence" is phobos φόβος (Strong's #5401). The BDAG (3rd Edition) cites it as appearing in 1 Peter 3:16 (page 1062).

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Concerning the Greek word entolē (Strong's #1785)



On page 340 Revelation 22:14 is cited even though entolē does not appear in this verse.

My assumption is that Revelation 14:12 (which was previously mentioned) is perhaps the intended passage (?).


Actually it is in Rev 22:14 - its a textual variant found in the TR - you should have it as a marginal note in most other versions, but it is found in the AV and NKJV.

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Concerning the word megalōsynē (Strong's #3172) on page 623 does anyone know what book "God's glorious name 58:1" is in reference to?

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