Jump to content

The Protestant Community

Christian and Theologically Protestant? Or, sincerely inquiring about the Protestant faith? Welcome to Christforums the Christian Protestant community. You'll first need to register in order to join our community. Create or respond to threads on your favorite topics and subjects. Registration takes less than a minute, it's simple, fast, and free! Enjoy the fellowship! God bless, Christforums' Staff
Register now

Fenced Community

Christforums is a Protestant Christian forum, open to Bible-believing Christians such as Presbyterians, Lutherans, Reformed, Baptists, Church of Christ members, Pentecostals, Anglicans. Methodists, Charismatics, or any other conservative, Nicene- derived Christian Church. We do not solicit cultists of any kind, including Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Eastern Lightning, Falun Gong, Unification Church, Aum Shinrikyo, Christian Scientists or any other non-Nicene, non-Biblical heresy.
Register now

Christian Fellowship

John Calvin puts forward a very simple reason why love is the greatest gift: “Because faith and hope are our own: love is diffused among others.” In other words, faith and hope benefit the possessor, but love always benefits another. In John 13:34–35 Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Love always requires an “other” as an object; love cannot remain within itself, and that is part of what makes love the greatest gift.
Sign in to follow this  
Knotical

Quick tip on how NOT to get out of Jury Duty.

Recommended Posts

Yesterday, I had the opportunity to fulfill my civic duty by reporting for jury duty in my local county. During the interview process for the trial to which I was assigned one of the other potential jurors nearly found out the hard way one of the ways not to get out of jury duty. When the judge opened the questioning portion of the process, after they selected the first 19 jurors they were going to question, he asked if anyone had any obligations that would preclude us from being focused on the trial. A "gentleman" sitting in the back row of the jury box raised his hand and mentioned that he would be losing two days of pay (as it was expected that the trial would take two days to complete) and it would make it difficult to pay his mortgage. The judge pointed out that was not the question he asked, yet this individual pressed the issue to the point he started talking over the judge. At which point the judge told this individual, in no uncertain terms, that if the individual talked over over him he would be found in contempt of court and would serve 5 days in jail and would be subject to a $1000 fine.

 

He quieted down a bit, but the judge made it clear that he was not going to be sympathetic to this man's plight as everyone else in that room who was part of the jury pool, who had a job, was pretty much in the same situation and he was not going to be given special treatment.

 

What makes this even more amazing is that this individual was going to be excused anyway as it turns out he had some prior run-ins with law enforcement when he was popped for a few (possibly more) DUI's where he felt he was treated unfairly.

 

So the moral, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to get out of jury duty and not spend time in jail, try not to get into an argument with the presiding judge.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post

This is super relevant to me right now. I just got back from Jury Duty and found myself excused within minutes of being there. Part of me was relieved, but another part of me was wanting to spend my day going through a court case and learning about the process. I've heard of people looking for ways to get out of Jury Duty, but I've never heard of people looking for tips to NOT get out of Jury Duty. After opening this thread, I realize this is a story, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to create a list of ways to not get sent home, ha ha. I would never feel the need to argue with a judge. I don't know what someone could be thinking when arguing with a judge, since that just sounds like an all around bad idea. Nowadays I could see this landing you with some serious charges, regardless of now aggressive it is. I could see how a judge would get irritated by someone wanting special treatment. At that point, you might as well take your dismissal.

Share this post


Link to post

I may have misworded the headline to the thread, but I was highlighting that arguing with a judge is no way to go about being excused from jury duty. In a way you will get your wish, just not in the way you wanted to as you would wind up in jail for contempt and end up missing more work that you expended had you just been respectful and answered the questions posed without an attitude.

 

I was also looking forward to serving, but was excused in the second round by the defense. Of course they never actually state the reason they are dismissing you, but I know with a good amount of certainty that it has to do with a relative of mine having been the victim of a violent crime. This case was for assault and robbery, so not completely akin to what happened to my Uncle, but that did not stop the defense attorney from excusing me.

Share this post


Link to post

Arguing with the judge or any authority figure is usually a mistake regardless of the situation. Your duty to your country comes before paying the bills. Part of the duties of being a citizen in this country, we have very few expectations on us for to have all the privileges of lining in America. He should have kept quiet. I'm always surprised at the lack of respect people have for judges and police officers. There is a sense of entitlement and narcissism that puts their needs over good sense.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post

I once served on a jury. After three days of trials and two days of deliberations, we made everyone so nervous that they settled and we were dismissed.

 

We had one prospective juror arrive in sweats (like for working out at a gym) and the Judge asked him what he did for a living. He was a Doctor. The judge orderd him to return with a suit and tie or face contempt charges, he should know how to dress for court and had no reason not to be dressed appropriately.

Share this post


Link to post
I once served on a jury. After three days of trials and two days of deliberations, we made everyone so nervous that they settled and we were dismissed.

 

We had one prospective juror arrive in sweats (like for working out at a gym) and the Judge asked him what he did for a living. He was a Doctor. The judge orderd him to return with a suit and tie or face contempt charges, he should know how to dress for court and had no reason not to be dressed appropriately.

 

Did the judge make him go home right then and change, or only if he was going to actually be selected for the jury?

 

I do recall on the summons that it states that business attire is "suggested." I wore jeans and a non-descript t-shirt. Almost wore a hat but was glad I didn't as anyone I saw with a hat was holding it, not wearing it.

Share this post


Link to post

 

Did the judge make him go home right then and change, or only if he was going to actually be selected for the jury?

 

I do recall on the summons that it states that business attire is "suggested." I wore jeans and a non-descript t-shirt. Almost wore a hat but was glad I didn't as anyone I saw with a hat was holding it, not wearing it.

 

Right then.

Share this post


Link to post

 

Did he end up serving on that jury, or did he get excused?

 

I don't know, by the time he got back, I was on a jury.

Share this post


Link to post

 

I don't know, by the time he got back, I was on a jury.

That would have been the ultimate lesson in humility to get all the way back to the court house just to be ultimately excused.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Topics

    • Quick hit: Trump gives North Korea update in series of tweets

      President Donald Trump on Wednesday night gave an update on the status of progress with North Korea, pointing out his “good, warm” relationship with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, as well as China’s interference with progress on the Korean Peninsula. Trump also mentioned the “war games” with South Korea and Japan, and that he could “instantly” restart them at any time if he wants to. In a series of tweets, which he started with “Statement from the White House,” Trump said, “President Donald J. Trump feels strongly that North Korea is under tremendous pressure from China because of our major trade disputes with the Chinese Government. At the same time, we also know that China is providing North Korea with […] considerable aid, including money, fuel, fertilizer and various other commodities. This is not helpful!” Download our FREE Mobile App - The Highest Rated Military News App in the World! “Nonetheless, the President believes that his relationship with Kim Jong Un is a very good and warm one, and there is no reason at this time to be spending large amounts […] of money on joint U.S.-South Korea war games,” Trump continued. “Besides, the President can instantly start the joint exercises again with South Korea, and Japan, if he so chooses. If he does, they will be far bigger than ever before. As for the U.S.–China trade disputes, and other […] differences, they will be resolved in time by President Trump and China’s great President Xi Jinping,” he went on. “Their relationship and bond remain very strong,” Trump concluded. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis this week seemed to open the door to holding future joint military exercises with South Korea. “We have no plans at this time to suspend any more exercises,” Mattis said this week at the Pentagon during a press conference. A decision had not yet been made about holding the annual drills as scheduled next year, Mattis added, saying, “We’ll make decisions on that in consultation [with the State Department].” Trump last week asked Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to cancel his upcoming trip to North Korea. Trump sent a series of three tweets on Friday afternoon asking Pompeo to hold off, citing insufficient progress in denuclearization. Pompeo had been slated to go to North Korea next week. It would have been his second visit there in two months. Following the U.S.-North Korea summit in Singapore this past June, President Trump announced that the U.S. would cease its “war games” with South Korea. The drills are often viewed by North Korea as antagonistic and “rehearsal” for invasion of the country. View the full article

      in Military

    • Quick Google Search Confirms Google Not Rigged

      RICHMOND, VA—When Lucas Wilson, 38, heard President Trump’s recent assertion that Google searches are rigged, he was understandably concerned, as the man uses Google for dozens of queries each and every day. So Wilson did the only reasonable thing: he searched Google to see whether or not Google is rigged, biased, or otherwise compromised. Thankfully, […] The post Quick Google Search Confirms Google Not Rigged appeared first on The Babylon Bee. View the original full article

      in Christian Satire

×

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.