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  1. Agreed. The whole transgender thing is an assault on reality and on God's design, which includes the genders. The fact this "discussion" is even going on is an example of how thoroughly sick society has become. We must protect the mind's of our wee ones from this and hold fast to what is true.
  2. Out of morbid curiosity, I was skimming through, and reading, parts of the Book of Mormon the other day. Good grief. I don't even know where to begin. Mark Twain once referred to the text as "chloroform in print" and it is most certainly boring. And this is coming from someone who has not only read pretty dense theological texts, but every conceivable technical manual and legal instrument necessary to conduct business over the years. Still, I think Charles Spurgeon nailed it with: "One of the most modern pretenders to inspiration is the Book of Mormon. I could not blame you should you laugh outright while I read aloud a page from that conglomeration." and "Take again the increase of Mormonism. What has been its strength? Simply this—the assertion of power from heaven. That claim is made, and the people believe it, and now they have missionaries in almost every country of the habitable globe, and the book of Mormon is translated into many languages. Though there never could be a delusion more transparent, or a counterfeit less skilful, and more lying upon the very surface, yet this simple pretension to power has been the means of carrying power with it." No offense to members of that cult, and I have one friend/business associate who practices said faith, but what a stinker.
  3. You appear to be confusing the civil and ceremonial laws of the Old Testament with moral laws. Regarding the dietary laws in particular, see Acts 10:15: 15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” Not to mention you're forgetting the New Testament condemnation of homosexuality. Contrary to what some will have you believe, homosexuality is most certainly condemned, repeatedly, in the New Testament. Such passages as Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, 1 Timothy 1:9-10, and Jude 1:7 are unequivocal.
  4. mhmm. And by debunked you mean twisting words, lawyering out of a plain reading of the text, ignoring millennia of theology, etc. I've seen some of the, frankly, rather lame attempts to ignore the New Testament's clear teaching on this topic and it is, at best, a blatant example of eisegesis. It is a pretty big stretch to suggest some of his statements somehow is tacet of the LGBTQ agenda. Besides, us Protestants don't believe what he says is binding upon anything.
  5. That is a disturbing story, Serpardum. One thing I've noticed over the years is that churches that embrace the world's view of gender and sexuality, they are both experiencing a symptom and a sign of spiritual sickness. And, eventually, they deny key tenants of the faith. This process is nothing new, however. "If the foundations be destroyed ..."
  6. Many of the key points have been addressed in this thread. I know that someone who was actively involved with homosexual behavior would be subject to church discipline and, if not repentant, subject to exclusion from membership and fellowship. However, that is not unique to homosexual behavior; if someone was having an adulterous relationship, was constantly a drunkard, etc., the same disciplinary measures would be taken. The Bible is quite clear that human sexuality is within the context of a married man and woman, so why this particular sin would be an exception is beyond me. And finally, while church discipline may seem harsh to outsiders, its purpose to restore fellowship with the errant brother or sister and maintaining the purity of the church body.
  7. Indeed. And I'd add that we believers ultimately answer to God. Just because a government of this world dubs something legal, doesn't for a second make it moral. On the contrary, what is so often mandated by man is totally immoral. I'm reminded of Ephesians 6:12: "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
  8. With all due respect, this notion is totally unbiblical. Marriage, as designed by our Creator, is for a man and woman for life. Love is one of commitment, not fleeting emotion. God's Word is quite clear when it says “I hate divorce, says the LORD God of Israel.” (Malachi 2:16) Why would a believer do something God Himself said he hates? Beyond that, there two reasons given in the New Testament in which a believer may divorce. One is sexual immorality (Matthew 5:32 and 19:9) and the other abandonment by an unbelieving spouse (1 Corinthians 7:15). Remarriage in those two cases remain a matter of debate within the church, so I won't get into that here.
  9. Maybe but the denomination we are a part of is somewhat sparse in this state.* In fact, we're part of a tiny congregation that is sort of a "satellite" of a larger body a good 2½—3 hours drive away. And it is rare we travel. We're rural folks and "home bodies" at that. * We've actually toyed with the idea of moving to the midwest because of this, but the older we get, the less likely it is.
  10. In the mid-2000s I did a pretty exhaustive study of the Latter-Day Saint history, theology, and texts unique to their movement (e.g., The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, The Pearl of Great Price, Journal of Discourses, etc.). I also did some reading on the sects out side of the mainstream religion (e.g., RLDS, Apostolic United Brethren, FLDS, Strangite, et al.). While it was a fascinating study in American history and religious thought, I came all the more convinced that the religion was completely unbiblical, well outside the pale of orthodoxy, and at times outright bizarre. Has anyone else done some study into this unique religion? What conclusions did you come to? Thanks for sharing. :)
  11. Yes, I used to feel this to an extreme extent when I was younger. Now when I miss it, it almost always with good cause (e.g., sickness in the family, being out of the area, etc.). There are times when I am just plumb worn out tired and if I don't go I feel a twinge of guilt based upon Hebrews 10:25, but that is rare.
  12. I work very long hours due to having an "in town" full time job, working the land, and side projects. However, I do not on Sunday. The Lord, in His wisdom, provided for us a day to rest and, most importantly, rest in Him.
  13. The practice sounds positively grotesque and unhealthy. God created man and woman and gave instruction to have a right relationship with Him and with each other. His parameters for sexual expression were designed for our joy, health, and for the creation of little people. Straying from His commandments on this is a sin against our Lord, but also our own bodies (1 Corinthians 6:18).
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