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  1. “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot. “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven. Matthew 5:13-16 I'm afraid you may be twisting the meaning of the verse to fit your need. "we might as well be trampled under foot"! You've kind of expounded on the meaning of Christ's words. I will be trampled underfoot by no one, whether I take the "wrong" position in this matter as my Lord has specifically and unequivocally stated that he will NEVER leave me or forsake me ... let alone toss me aside. He will lead me into all truth and righteousness. And I will not allow anyone to judge me based on a political position!! This kind of pressure has been used in many churches to try to control members. I will have no part in it. The Christians who make stands on various political issues (abortion, opposing gay rights etc) do not seem to be leading people to "glorify your Father in heaven." In fact, these actions seem to further drive non-believers away. Save these people and these issues take care of themselves. Our saltiness, our good deeds, involve loving our neighbor as ourselves, loving our enemies, feeding the hungry, giving water to those who thirst. Not taking a particular position in a political position. These are disputable matters that do nothing but distract both believers and non-believers from attention to our Father and His will.
  2. My opinion is that whether our government requires women to be drafted or not is the business of the government and all of it's citizens. The US is not a theocracy not matter what our supposed origins. Should Christians, as Christians take a stand. I don't think so. What I mean, is that if a Christian disagrees with this trend, they should stand against it, as a Citizen. The idea that we should establish a Christian position on the matter is mistaken, in my belief. My personal belief is that Christians should follow the lead of our Lord, and focus our time and attention at spreading the Good News. It seems like some Christian's operate on the principle that we're supposed to be fixing this world (morally) or even saving the world (environmentalism). This world is destined for Fire.
  3. Mackey

    A Question For "Our" Catholic People.

    Of course! You are absolutely correct! I never meant to suggest that we should pray to Mary. You are absolutely right and scripture backs you up completely. Just for one example, Paul when beginning of Colossians shares how he prays for the believers: We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, because we have heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love you have for all God’s people Colossians1:3-4 This is so on point! Satan is loosed on this earth. Catholics and all who call on the name of the Lord must know that the evil one could afflict a person, then release them when they did his bidding. False christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect Matthew 24:24 Getting a "cure" or an answer to your prayer (to some other entity other than the Father) is not a sign that should lead you away from the truth. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth 2 Thessalonians 2:9-10 My main point is that if you know someone who has been led astray, we should gently bring them to the truth... in love. If we get it right doctrinally, and can eloquently expound on the scriptures about the truth, and can bury those who disagree with us, but don't show love and compassion, we are nothing, we gain nothing and are no better than a banging gong! If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. 1 Corinthians 1-13 Sorry to go on and on with the scripture quotes ... but really, this is were we need to be. Thank God for all of you, Mackey
  4. Mackey

    A Question For "Our" Catholic People.

    You know, When Mary visited Elizabeth, when John the Baptist was yet in her womb, Elizabeth "filled with the Holy Spirit" exclaimed "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!" Mary Replied ... You're on shaky ground when you denigrate a person, that was declared "Blessed .. among women" by someone filled with the Holy Spirit of God. Mary herself responded, "From now on all generations will call me blessed..." Not many generations of protestants call Mary Blessed among women. The posts above are in quite the opposite direction!. I understand the temptation ... I get that people are trying to "set Catholics right" and prove to them that they should not worship or pray to Mary. But the disdain people feel for Catholics and Catholic doctrine often leads them to spouting, at the least, rude things about the mother of our Lord. I cannot image that this would please Jesus. If you get to know Catholics, you will find that they are often loving people who have a heart that is open to learning more about the Truth of the Supremacy of Christ. But this is unlikely when you force them to put up a wall to protect beliefs that have often been ingrained from a young age. If you attended a Catholic mass you will find that a very large amount of the New Testament and the old is read aloud over the liturgical year. In fact, much of the liturgy (the words the priest says) is doctrinally sound (except for the meaning of communion, the supremacy of the pope, the prayers directed to the saints). A little love would go a long way, brothers. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13
  5. Mackey

    One testimony

    Well, it was a wonderful video. I couldn't stop watching it. It seemed heartfelt and genuine. God has not forgotten his chosen people. Pray is absolutely the first and best thing you can do regarding family and their walk with the Lord.
  6. Mackey

    An Important Thought, Something To Think About

    It seems a little ironic AGustOfWind, that in your initial post you stated that it was your opinion that we need to focus less on combating our very own brothers and sisters in Christ, then proceed to do just that in subsequent posts. Please understand, that I'm not against, you, but your point is lost in all the bickering that follows your original post. I don't much like all the rudeness in the replies to you either, but I understand the frustration. As a person who does not attend any church, I can say, in all good conscious, that I don't think the Lord wants me to be in a particular church at this time. But that it no way entitles me to claim all those who do not chose to live as I do are wrong. If you feel that you do not belong in a religion, that is fine. It's between you and the Lord. But it's very likely that God surely does put people in differently religions (I'm speaking of Christian religions) for his own purpose. Remember: So no one can judge you for your convictions, but you are not called to try to correct others (as far as I can tell in the Word). Romans Chapter 14 seems very applicable here.
  7. Mackey

    The Baptism Debate

    Well said. Modern Christians often forget how radical it was "to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ." The first believers were basically being told to leave behind the old Jewish Covenant way of getting right with God, and follow this man, Jesus, who they knew of and many had seen. Jesus was being declared as The Way, in fact, the only way to the Father. So being baptized in the name of Jesus (or the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) was even more controversial back in the day (in fact, as we know, many followers of Christ were put to death for this proclaimation of the supremacy of The Way). What started as a beautiful representation of a thing that had already taken place, became an obligation. I even have heard people speak of being immersed in front of the congregation as an act of humility. So the person must suffer somewhat to get into the club? That's ridiculous! Recorded in the new Testament were people overjoyed to be baptized. One of the first to enter into heaven through believe in Christ was the criminal who perished along side of Christ. This man's hands were secured to a hunk of wood, never to be able to complete any act of obedience or kindness. He even chided the other man who was mocking Christ, by stating "... we deserve to be here.." He admitted that he deserved to die a horrible and painful death, birds at the ready to pick his flesh, ... a slow an agonizing death. What in the world did he do!? It must have been bad. But this man was with Christ that day in Paradise! What an honor! For what .... for the acknowledgement of Jesus as the Christ. You'll note, he didn't even ask to be forgiven ... And he surely wasn't sprinkled or immersed. While Christian's may feel that being baptized is a washing or cleansing, I see it (as others have) as a "total immersion." When something is totally immersed in a thing, it takes on that thing, intimately. If you have a white cloth, and you Bapize it into red dye. You don't have white cloth anymore. It is forever identified as a red cloth. We are a new creation, baptized into Jesus Christ, forever changed. We're baptized into Christ not by an outward act, but by an inward accepting of the Truth and a calling upon the name of the Lord for salvation For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13
  8. Mackey

    Did Jesus Condemn Homosexuality?

    Jesus ushered in the New Covenant. Once he fulfilled the law, now, the only way to draw near to God (to become righteous), is to follow Christ. No one is justified by observing the law. Once the Christ came, Jews and Gentiles alike can only come to the father through Jesus, through belief (faith) in the name of God's one and only Son. If you do not accept Christ ... you are condemned. The Jews spent many many years trying and failing to keep the law. It was a heavy, futile burden. Yes the law is perfect. But we are not. We need to lead sinners to Jesus who's burden on us is light! How hard we make it to follow Jesus sometimes. Even Christians seem so burdened about trying to make sure they're not condemned or are not breaking any rule, laws or regulations. Yes, we commit sins, but those sins are paid for. The closer we get to Christ, the more we will be perfected ... but my Savior's death was sufficiently powerful to save me in spite of my failings. “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:17-20 The commandments are there to show us our need for the Savior. Jesus said, whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments will be called least in the kingdom. He wasn't talking about the just the 10 commandments ... he meant ALL of them. All the many, many rules. He spoke this before his death and resurrection. He burying those self-righteous ones who thought that they could save themselves thought the law. He was pointing out the need for salvation through Him! The only way for us to have righteousness that exceeds the Jewish leaders, those ultimately knowledgeable in the law, is to accept Christ. Just before Christ died, he said "It is finished." He fulfilled the righteous requirements of the law - He Accomplished it ALL. Every dot and iota. He did this for us. Yet, many of us seem to have difficulty accepting this by faith. So we try to do what the Jews could not. Make ourselves righteous. Come to Christ. Lead others to Christ and trust that the Spirit will lead your brother and sister in the right path. Gently guide brother and sisters, but don't condemn! Jesus, the lamb of God, took away the sins ... of the world. But there's one thing left to avoid condemnation. Come to Jesus.
  9. Mackey

    Did Jesus Condemn Homosexuality?

    Jesus did not come into the world to condemn the world, but to save it. God poured out his wrath against the world's sin on Christ. If he poured out his wrath, how much wrath is there left for us? Jesus said that the worlds sin, (the sin we will be judged for) is unbelief in him. Jesus said that he would never leave us or forsake us. ... Never. Paul was convienced that nothing could separate us from the love of God. Nothing. The "us" are those the have come under the blood of Christ. Not the world. The lost know deeply that somethings wrong with them. Hence all the drug abuse, suicide and depression. Of course it's clear in the Bible that God had a perfect plan, and we have veered from it. All of us. if a glutton, a gossip, someone sexually immoral, etc comes to Christ - the Lord God will lead him into righteousness. We'd be much better off leading people to Christ than pointing out sin. If one comes to Christ, the Spirit will lead them. He won't leave them orphans. John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. John 5:24 "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
  10. I know the title is this post was meant in jest, but I also believe that a rational person, if they considered our situation, would have to come to the conclusion that we were either created, or that this planet was seeded by ancient aliens. The earth simply isn't old enough to allow for random mutations to cause a rise in a vast array of life. So while I do not believe in aliens, I do feel it belief in them is much more rational than a belief or "faith" in evolution.
  11. The early evolutionists held that complex organisms evolved from tiny, less complex unicellular organisms. The problem is, that as microbiology developed as a field of study, it was discovered that there is no such thing as a "simple" cell. I've found that many people who defend evolution, can not even properly explain it, and relate a theory sounding like a version of mystical natural selection (or worse... like, giraffes' necks got longer because they stretched for leaves). I feel that many are not even interested in a discussion of earth age, evolution or creationism at all. They have faith in what "Science" teaches as doctrine, I think, to avoid having to confront the possibility that there may be a God to whom they are accountable.
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    Really like the chat. Wouldn't it be cool if somehow an indicator on the forum pages would indicate when someone was in there?
  13. Mackey

    Flip Clocks

    I have seen your posts on the vBulletin support forum. Ha! We "Flip Clock Fans" don't want to market. That would just be more competition on eBay!
  14. Mackey

    Flip Clocks

    I'm ate up about flip clocks. It started with trying to get the clock that appeared in my favorite movie, Groundhog Day, and it turned into an obsession. It's actually a round about way that I found this forum. In working to create a forum about flip clocks (collecting, buying, selling, restoring) I kept running into a guy named that turned out to be William on the forum about forum software. So, I kept checking out his forum since he seemed to know what he was doing. So here I am, now a member of this forum. In my hobby, I spend lots of time making YouTube "how to" videos, helping with other's questions about restoration of flip clocks, and actually fixing some peoples clock's for free. Crazy, but I love helping people. I've got flip clock friends on about every continent I think. So that's what I do. Besides work. And thanks @William for such a great forum! [ATTACH=CONFIG]n11992[/ATTACH] Panasonic RC-6025 - the "Groundhog Day" clock.
  15. Mackey


    Hello all. My name's Mike, but I prefer to go by Mackey (my high school and internet nick-name). I'm a fifty something follower of Jesus Christ. I work as a physical therapist. I suppose I'd be referred to as a non-denominational Christian. I do not attend church. (gasp). But I promise I won't judge you if you do. ;) Some of my favorite verses: [sA]Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. ... “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. Matthew 6:26-31 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” John 6:28-29 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. Colossians 2:16-17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. John 3:17 [/sA]

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