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John Calvin puts forward a very simple reason why love is the greatest gift: “Because faith and hope are our own: love is diffused among others.” In other words, faith and hope benefit the possessor, but love always benefits another. In John 13:34–35 Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Love always requires an “other” as an object; love cannot remain within itself, and that is part of what makes love the greatest gift.


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  1. Amadeus

    Can non Christians go to heaven?

    While not disagreeing with most of what has been said, I would add or clarify that being a follower of Christ is not dependent on the label of Christian being attached. In these United States it appears to me that a great many people who do bear that label really know little about what it means to be like Christ [to be Christian]. The Apostle Paul was addressing that, at least indirectly here: Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. In chapter 4 of Romans the same Apostle is speaking about Abraham's faith before he was circumcised. If circumcision identifies a Jew then Abraham was no Jew until many years [more than 20] after he was called to serve God. This could be like those who have never enter a physical church because they didn't exist or were inaccessible or they had never owned a Bible because there were none available. Believers can go to the Lord without the trimmings when there are no trimmings. Remember the words penned by Solomon: "Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov 21:2 But also recall the words of Jesus here: "But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Luke 12:48 We, in these United States and in some other western and countries have generally been given more to work with than so many countries such as North Korea and the strongly Islamic countries. We need to remember that "much is given... much is required". This means Bibles, time, money, education, opportunities, etc. What are we doing with what we have?
  2. Amadeus

    Is Faith a Gift?

    While all of this is so, it doesn't mean we are to sit back on our laurels and await the final curtain. The disciples of Jesus asked that He increase their faith, What was His response? As to our own works, we must with Jesus "work while it is day for soon the night cometh when no man can work". If we do not understand what our work is, then we had better ask of Him for He will surely not fail to provide an answer to a sincere request: "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" Matt 7:7 Good students we may be, but what happens to those who were at the bottom of their class in school not due to laziness, but rather to a lack of ability? God has indeed through His Son provided the means to accomplish all of His will in and for each of us. Is not the rest up to us? Give God the glory! "...Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief." Mark 9:24 Indeed everyone exercises faith, but obviously too many have too much faith in the wrong things. There is a negative faith. And many examples of the correct "exercise" can accomplish can been seen in scripture and/or in our own lives, Give God the glory! Were not all of us born "spiritually dead"? If we no longer are, who can we give credit for that? Yes, good works most certainly do have a part: "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." James 2:26
  3. Amadeus

    Don’t give money to panhandlers.

    This is the part that can be very difficult for believers to get past. My wife and I once gave a couple cash for a bus ticket and then drove them almost a hundred miles to the nearest bus station. Later I discovered that they had not bought the ticket and they had not returned to their home as they had convinced us they were going to do. Their family confirmed that this was a scam they had pulled on other trusting people previously. They definitely used us and at the time we were very deeply hurt... but maybe God will sometime allow them to see our good intentions and they will really look toward Him. That part of their subsequent lives I do not know, but God does. Give God the glory and keep on giving. Will God run short of things to give?
  4. Amadeus

    Don’t give money to panhandlers.

    Of course i know about the state benefits available. Before my retirement a number of years ago I worked in a Social Security field office. The system was bad then and it is worse now. Needy people wait months and years to receive disability payments they desperately need. Of course, much of the difficulty lies in so many people applying for disability when they really will not qualify anyway. All those clog up a poor system (poor because it is man's?) so that the benefits really needy are unnecessarily delayed... On the question though, I believe too many believers are not hearing or not even listening for God's input before reacting. I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone that aren't also too often directed at myself. God won't leave us hanging if we are really looking to Him rather than to ourselves for the right answer. Do we sometimes get "weary in well doing" and simply take what our natural mind considers to be the easy way? Yes, I believe that we do. Isn't it better to pay out to someone who doesn't really need it than to withhold from someone that does? If we don't hear God isn't this likely to happen at least once in a while? Perhaps the one who loses the most is me because my connection with God was amiss and/or I was too busy to keep it intact.
  5. Amadeus

    Don’t give money to panhandlers.

    Lots of reasons given to give or not to give or how to give so as to be certain the gift is properly used, but shouldn't the correct answer be to listen to God? What does the Holy Spirit say to our heart? Isn't it possible that sometimes God is testing us when someone is begging for our material goods? The beggars may need nothing material, but it may be that we need to give because it is what God wants us to do for His purposes which are unknown to us? What is real charity [love] according to scripture? Testing the spirits is one thing but deciding who is needy is not quite the same thing and we may be tempting God when we use our own rationalizations as a basis for not giving. God knows the hearts of the panhandlers and He also knows our hearts. Are we listening to Him? Are we pleasing Him? "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" John 10:27 Are we hearing and obeying God's voice when confronted by a panhandler... or are we protecting our own pocketbook?
  6. And do we understand a little better why, "Jesus wept"?
  7. Amadeus

    Poll Question: Creationism, OEC or YEC?

    I voted a very definite, "don't know", but I really do believe that God is able to put together all of this [the earth, universe and physical life forms, etc.) so as to raise questions in the minds of people who ask questions. The reality is the "substance of things hoped for" in Hebrews 11:1. All of these other things are simply what God gave men as an alternative (or alternatives) with a basis to build arguments for something else other than reality. My other alternative in the poll was "Doesn't matter". Ultimately, perhaps it does not. ​What I see is a fiction that man calls reality. The fiction was born when man sinned for the first time. At that time his clearest view of reality was blocked. He died and became blind to reality... at least most of it. The fiction is what men are searching within when God is not seriously considered or when man works it out only by his own logic and/or the scientific method. The scientific method could be good if it not always have to start with certain underlying assumptions. Reality is according to God's plan visible only to those who really have the "eyes to see" and the "ears to hear" of which scripture speaks. Those perceptions are not as per the natural five senses and the reasoning abilities of men, but as allowed or given when a person moves in the right direction... which is toward God. Thus we have the Holy Spirit, which will lead us in the right direction if we have the Holy Spirit available and we do not quench said Spirit. So then we concern ourselves with time for planet Earth (and the Universe?). Is it 6,000 years according to what men usually call years today,m or is it ever so much longer, or perhaps with God in His reality it is... ?
  8. Amadeus

    If He were alive today, would Jesus vote?

    ​Perhaps then you should consider a change: "O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps" Jerem 10:23 " Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all of thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths" Prov 3:5-6
  9. Amadeus

    If He were alive today, would Jesus vote?

    I​ really had no plan of using such an "other" designation. When we do vote for or against Jesus will it not be noticed by those who are "of the truth"? "Everyone that is of the truth heareth my voice" John 18:37
  10. Amadeus

    Prayers please

    None of us at the beginning or even later are...that is, fit to be a called a Christian. "But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick" Matt 9:12 We all need the Great Physician, but don't wait until things are fixed. Come to Him when you need to be "fixed". Simply surrender to God my friend. He is not looking for those who are already perfect. If He were then He would be very disappointed. He is looking for hearts like yours that have a desire to please Him in spite of faults. But you have now, even without the details. God knows the details. He simply wants you to admit to yourself, as you have, the impossibility of doing the right thing alone. It is the nature of the beast that every man without God is. You have made a step in returning to a church. God is certainly pleased with the effort. But, serving God is not a one time effort or even a one time surrender. You must come to a where you "pray without ceasing" and "rejoice in the Lord always". These are impossible things, but ask God to help you do them and then do the best you can. Keep on asking... "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you" Matt 7:7 I am joining in prayer here for you.
  11. Amadeus

    If He were alive today, would Jesus vote?

    As was said already, when we don't vote it is an effective vote in any case. I wonder if it would be legal anywhere to "write in" the name on Jesus on the ballot? I would guess that if it were legal and we were to do it, it would probably not affect the outcome...
  12. Amadeus


    Which day or days belong to God? "This is the day that which the Lord has made; we will rejoice and be glad in it" Psalm 118:21 ​Which ones do not? If one of us wants to set aside a special day to remember God as they did in the OT, that is not an evil so long as God is remembered all of the rest of the time as well. What day of the 7 named week days did God come into your heart? I suspect there is not one day of the seven that we name which has not been the day this walk with God started for someone? How important is that to such a person? Holidays? That means "holy days", does it not? ... and I know there are probably several people on this forum who know what "holy" means. Is not today then one of God's holy days, whatever day it happens to be? I am not against holidays as men usually presently decide holidays, but all days are God's and we are God's. The current expression that many people use fits here. The time to give it all to God is 24/7. Another expression says that we are living on 'borrowed time'. Well I wouldn't called it "borrowed", but we are at best only stewards 24/7 of what God has given us until we have inherited. [What do any of us have that God did not provide?]Have any of us inherited yet... or are we still working on our stewardship?
  13. Amadeus

    Do you have some special experiences?

    There is a time to remain silent and a time to speak. Ecclesiastes chapter 3 spells it out. Jesus as we know in the gospel writings speaks many times, but he also remained silent when likely most of us would have opened our mouths in own defense. ​When should we speak to tell others of our blessings or of our experiences with or by God? We need direction: "O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps" Jerem 10:23 Our Director should be, no needs to be God, the only One who can always see what is in our hearts and what other hearts need. We always need to be witnesses with our ways as we walk through our homes, neighborhoods, work places, grocery stores, etc., but sometimes we also need to open our mouths and speak of our personal experiences in the glory of God. We need to be paying attention: "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" John 10:27 "Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matt 13:9 The apostle Paul told the way to hearing. Is that not also the way to become a sheep if we are not one presently? "So then faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God" Rom 10:17 So we by the mean available "hear" what thus saith the Lord, how can we keep our mouths shut? Give God the glory!
  14. Thank you for sharing your page, Dominichi.

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