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  1. Please explain to me, William, how a man can claim believing that, for him in the least, Jesus is a Divine Being (the Living Son of God) while he insists that Jesus teachings/sayings are not enough for him to know the Truth he is looking for. But perhaps the Truth for most people in the world (of any belief) could be expressed like this: My Christian friends told me: We are saved because we accepted (believe) that Jesus Christ is our Saviour. The same way my Muslim friends say (also with a great confidence): We deserve ending up into Paradise because we believe Mohammad is the messenger of Allah (God in Arabic). Sorry, but this sounds to me as Magic... I mean one needs just to join a group of people who believe in this or that person and he is saved! The good news is that... all believers who are based on this criteria seem very satisfied of themselves. But it happens... I can't believe in Magic in any form :( My Truth (that I got fully, thanks to Jesus) is: Only the joy of living the True Love towards all others (hence living the Way of God) is eternal. ALL other things will end up to the state of void (the state before creation) which is referred by Jesus Christ as the "Everlasting Fire" (as we throw non-useful things into fire to let them return back to their raw state; surely not to torture them ;) ) . Anyway, I guess I am talking non-sense here to many people, not just you. After all, Jesus was condemned to death for talking non-sense based on men's justice... right? May God bless you. Kerim
  2. As you know, you (with millions) have to assume, for one reason or another, that whoever knows and accepts Jesus Christ HAS TO BE a believer based on faith. So I am sorry because I knew Jesus based on reason not faith :( I knew Him as my Perfect Divine Teacher (the Living Son of God) because it happens, to my big surprise, He agrees with me on all what I discovered about my being and the world as it is (only my Creator can do this). In fact, no other man in human history (and now) did it, even to a lesser extent. Also while I was learning scientific matters as in Math and Physics for example, I didn't believe in any axiom, theory, theorem... etc. just because some others (if not the world) say it is true. I had to check (since I was a teen) the validity and usefulness (to me in the least) of each of them first based on my personal logical reasoning (that God gave me of course). Yes, I know that my logic is not perfect (though fortunately it evolves with time) but I can't follow others blindly though many don't mind doing. If my point is clear, you would know that even if the entire world will prove that Jesus is fake or didn't exist in the first place, my belief in Him (based on reason) won't be affected in any way. It is like I will stop using Pythagoras Theorem in my designs if the world finds out, by solid proofs, that Pythagoras didn't exist. On the other hand, I guess you cannot change yourself to please me. Do you think I can change myself to please you ;) But I am real sorry that some of my words hurt you... like I, me, mine and myself for a few. It seems to me that you kindly suggest me to live on the safe side by throwing the ball on some others anytime I talk about a subject; personal or not also important or not. But I used to be the sole responsible of everything I say and do while leaving others say and do whatever they like :) As you know, this is how Jesus lived. Kerim
  3. In general what you tell me is very true.
  4. I am a rational man so I fully understand that whoever couldn't listen to Jesus teachings and see his signs (as the unique way by which He let his flesh and message die for 40 days), he surely won't listen to me as well. After all, I am just a saved person, not a saviour ;) And the Gospel is now everywhere.
  5. Well said Smithee. Yes, God had to prepare first our primitive ancestors (being as the kids of humanity) by laws (before Jesus time). In fact, we have no choice but to raise our little kids also by certain rules so that they will have a clean healthy body, in the least, when adult. Then, they will be free to live (or not) the care and love of their parents towards others. Jesus came to tell us that True Love (the unconditional care and love towards others) and Laws cannot co-exist at the same time in/for the same being. Laws are applied on a group of people while True Love is personal and could be lived by independent free individuals only. Imagine a man loves his wife to please his father ;) I noticed that on the English Gospel, the word "Wassia وصية" in Arabic is translated to "commandment". The word in Arabic could mean an advice from a loving father to his beloved sons. But I am not sure how the word "commandment" is heard, practically speaking, by English/American persons. Kerim
  6. You are right but I am afraid that you and I see this event differently. In any case, I respect your view because you know what is good for you much more than I do ;) So I re-phrase what you said: Without the way by which Jesus died, the resurrection of his teachings that oppose ALL men's laws couldn't be possible. I guess you know that the day Jesus was condemned to death there was not even ONE person in the world who dared saying he believes Him. In fact, Jesus knew how to let even Peter "his Rock" deny Him 3 times on that day. Jesus liked to show the world that both his flesh and teachings died on the cross. And to let this point be clearer, he let his apostles isolate themselves for 40 days (the period during which a widow may be isolated to prove she has no life in her from his dead husband). The miracle is that after this "total/confirmed" death (that happened ONCE in human history and can never happen again anywhere in the future), his teachings that oppose ALL men's laws were spread all over the world. We live this greatest miracle of Jesus (the resurrection of his teachings) even on these days. I mean while Jesus teachings (on the Gospel) are on our hands, no one in the world dares (lack of interest if he is among the men on top or having no permission if he is among the men on bottom) addressing the 'world' clearly and openly (hence not privately as I do here ;) )... 'exactly' as Jesus did. Don't you know why ;) Kerim
  7. Hi Smithee, If I understood you well, you found your Truth, as I did, in the sayings of 'Jesus only' who gave the last updated and complete version of all previous teachings so that whoever is created with a human living soul (besides the common human living flesh) could know, if he likes, how to live and deserve being among the sons of God, now and for eternity. Kerim
  8. To me in the least, Jesus Christ (as presented on my Arabic Gospel) is indeed a divine being (the living Son of God). He took a flesh as mine to save me from my ignorance (a weakness I born with; it is called by millions as the original sin) by his ‘perfect’ teachings, sayings and hints (besides other means). In other words, I saw in Him the Perfection of God and I didn’t need ANY other sources (said of men or God) to live in the Light of Knowledge (the knowledge about my existence and the world as it is). Without this perfect (relatively speaking) knowledge, it was rather hard (if not impossible) for me to know the Way for which I am created for. This is how I became an independent disciple of Jesus Christ. So, I wonder if someone here was able seeing the perfection of Jesus teachings as I did. But I understand that most people have likely more interest in joining groups that see Jesus as being an idol... to be worshiped and glorified in great ceremonies. Kerim
  9. Thank you, Theophilus, for your valuable note. Now, I can add the reason for which I asked the question of this thread. I personally discovered that Jesus of the Gospel (as presented on the Arabic version, I have) is indeed a Divine Being because He told me (even after 2000 years) what I expect from my Creator to help me know. In other words, if Jesus Christ couldn't help me know the 'logical' answers to ALL important questions (without exceptions) about 'my' life (my existence) and about the world (in which I live) as it is in reality, I would see in him just another famous person glorified by men. So I wonder how many people (as independent free individuals) were able seeing in Jesus Christ 'their' 'Perfect' Divine Teacher.
  10. If our Creator comes in person (as human) among us, what do you expect from Him to tell us? Of course, this question is not addressed to those who, as zillion of other created living things, don’t need to know their Creator in order to live normally. I am afraid the answer is not trivial... But feel free to say whatever you think. Kerim
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