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  1. I guess you didn't read what I posted earlier... Literal hermeneutics. This means interpretation that gives to every word the same meaning it would have in normal usage, whether employed in writing, speaking, or thinking. It is sometimes called the principle of grammatical-historical interpretation since the meaning of each word is determined by grammatical and historical considerations. The principle might also be called normal interpretation since the literal meaning of words is the normal approach to their understanding in all languages. It might also be designated plain interpretation so that no one receives the mistaken notion that the literal principle rules out figures of speech. Symbols, figures of speech, and types are all interpreted plainly in this method, and they are in no way contrary to literal interpretation. After all, the very existence of any meaning for a figure of speech depends on the reality of the literal meaning of the terms involved. Figures often make the meaning plainer, but it is the literal, normal, or plain meaning that they convey to the reader. http://gracebiblestudies.org/Resources/Web/www.duluthbible.org/g_f_j/The_Hermeneutics_Of_Dispensationalism1.htm I thought this would be a civil arena to learn from each other, but I guess not. BYE
  2. Nothing about Israel? Jerusalem, Mount of Olives. Doesn't it say 2/3rds will be killed? The remaining 1/3 will be saved and turn to Him, thus all Israel will be saved. I believe that is the reference as well as Jesus alluding to it in "He who endures to the end shall be saved". It is that 1/3 remnant of believing Israel.
  3. .I'm referring to the fact that Gentile believers are spiritual not natural descendants of Abraham. Re: 1Cor 15:46 , yes we have natural/earthly bodies, one day we will have physical bodies with spiritual qualities. We are saved by the shed blood of Jesus, not ours. Jesus had a mixture of Gentile blood (Ruth/Rahab). Israel (as Jesus) and Israel (as the nation) are used interchangeably. 4 legged lamb? This may help... Literal hermeneutics. This means interpretation that gives to every word the same meaning it would have in normal usage, whether employed in writing, speaking, or thinking. It is sometimes called the principle of grammatical-historical interpretation since the meaning of each word is determined by grammatical and historical considerations. The principle might also be called normal interpretation since the literal meaning of words is the normal approach to their understanding in all languages. It might also be designated plain interpretation so that no one receives the mistaken notion that the literal principle rules out figures of speech. Symbols, figures of speech, and types are all interpreted plainly in this method, and they are in no way contrary to literal interpretation. After all, the very existence of any meaning for a figure of speech depends on the reality of the literal meaning of the terms involved. Figures often make the meaning plainer, but it is the literal, normal, or plain meaning that they convey to the reader. http://gracebiblestudies.org/Resources/Web/www.duluthbible.org/g_f_j/The_Hermeneutics_Of_Dispensationalism1.htm
  4. Prophetic literature. Why should I take a non literal approach when all the prophecies regarding Christ's first Coming was literally fulfilled? Am I now to change my literal hermeneutic in preparation for His 2nd Coming? (many of which prophecies are spoken of in the same Books that mentioned His First Coming). I don't understand, I asked a question regarding the fulfillment of 'thus all Israel will be saved' (in Rom 11) taking a few passages from Zechariah, and I get a lot of static about reexamining my methods. Of course I am always examining my beliefs, but it helps when others can answer my questions posed. Can we answer my first question?
  5. That's a two way street Becky. I have heard ex-Covenant persons say the same thing after they left and took on a more literal approach to Scripture. It's not a matter of preconceived ideas as I try to test all against Scripture. It is more of a literal approach which I prefer because a Pandora's Box is proned to be opened otherwise. Anyways, how basically do you handle the many Scriptures promised to Israel (I listed only two, linked to the passage in Rom 11 'thus all Israel will be saved')?
  6. I am in Christ but I am just not of the natural seed of Abraham, only the 'spiritual' seed. Otherwise, which of the 12 tribes are each of us?
  7. I was using 'them' as a pronoun for the 'unfulfilled' prophecies of the OT (I listed a couple of them).
  8. I see this is post #15. 🤓
  9. Romans 11:25-29 KJVS [25] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. [26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: [27] For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. [28] As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. [29] For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Zechariah 13:8-9 KJVS [8] And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord , two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. [9] And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God. Zechariah 14:2-4,8-9,16-17 KJVS [2] For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. [3] Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. [4] And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. [8] And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. [9] And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord , and his name one. [16] And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. [17] And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. What does one do with much ( a few listed above) of the unfulfilled prophecies of the OT in order to fit them into some of the above theories mentioned? Spiritulize them? Abrogate? Place the believing Gentiles into them?
  10. My understanding of Dispensational thought is that the Church was a mystery hidden but then revealed after the refusal of their Messiah by the Jews... Jesus began teaching in parables Mt 13 Promised to build His Church Mt 16 Mystery revealed Rom 16:25-26, Eph 3:4-6 In any case, the Church wasn't plan B which many caricature Dispensationalists with, but had been planned in the eternal ages by God and had been revealed through the Apostles.
  11. Are you saying then, that Adam was created an infant flopping around on the ground?
  12. My simplistic 2¢.. Definition of a day is given... Genesis 1:5 KJVS [5] And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Multiply 'evening and morning' by 6, and you come up with 6 days. -finis-
  13. On the surface it seems the concept of omniscience includes kardiognōstēs but is broader to also include non-heart matters as well. So I wouldn't equate the two. (But you probably stated that obvious fact...(guilty of skimming your posts).
  14. Today, virtual jail. Tomorrow, concrete and iron.
  15. I believe 'all Israel' is referring to what Paul was speaking of in Rom 11:1-5..the natural bloodline of believing Jews, the remnant according to the election of grace. This is not referring to the believing Gentiles, nor unbelieving Jews, although both believing Jew and Gentile make up the Church the Body of Christ. (Eph 2:15)
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