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  1. Hello @davidedward, The Lord Jesus Christ was both Prophet, Priest and King, and He was rejected by Israel markedly in regard to each Divine appointment. See Matthew 12:41; Matthew 12:42; Hebrews 7. In Christ Jesus Chris
  2. Hi @William, That's fine. I don't mind. ☺️ How is one born again, or born of God? - By believing the good news of God concerning His Son. That obviously requires that we, 'hear,' that good news. For faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. The entrance of God's Word brings light. Light as to our sinful condition, and our need of a Saviour; light concerning God's provision of salvation for us, in and through the all-sufficient sacrifice of His only begotten Son, and of His resurrection. That enlightenment, is the first act of the creation process,'let there be light', and it mirrors that within our own experience. This process is replicated with every new truth concerning Christ that is revealed to us, we hear it and believe it, and faith grows. We are His workmanship from beginning to end. I can only express it in terms that I am familiar with I'm afraid. In Christ Jesus Chris
  3. Hello again, @William, 'That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.(John 3:6) ' The natural man is born a natural man and will die a natural man, unless he is also born of the Spirit: and then he will have the hope of resurrection life, and will be raised with a spiritual body. 1 John 5:1a, informs the reader that, 'Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. However, the babe in Christ needs to have it's senses exercised, to know good from evil, and to learn what is pleasing to God, and that comes by the prayerful reading and application of God's Word, through which the Holy Spirit is able to take of the things of Christ and make them ours. Thereby we eat and drink of Christ: for His words are, 'spirit', and they are, 'life'. 'For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.' (1 Corinthians 2:11-13) Praise God! In Christ Jesus Chris
  4. 'But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.' (1 Corinthians 2:14-15) Hello @William The contrast is between, 'the natural man', and, 'he that is spiritual'. Praise God! In Christ Jesus Chris
  5. @Ben Asher, @Faber @Stratcat @William Hello there, Please do not place me on either side of this debate, for I am attempting to look at this objectively. 🙂 My first thought takes me to Romans 1:18-2:16, in which man is declared to be without excuse for not retaining God in their knowledge:- 'Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:' (Rom 1:19-20) * Does this not indicate that the knowledge of God is available to all men? otherwise it could not be declared that man is 'without excuse? Or is it only the knowledge of salvation that is denied to some and made known to others in the estimation of some? This cannot be, for the Word of God is available to all. Experience shows that there are those who are receptive to the truth and those who are not, but it is not for a want of knowledge, for it is freely available. * In 1 Corinthians 2:14 it is said that, 'the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.' That is understandable, because the natural man needs enlightenment. However the entrance of God's Word brings light does it not? And faith comes by hearing, does it not? And hearing by the Word of God. The Word of God is, 'spirit', and it is 'life', and is available to the majority of mankind, to both 'hear' and 'believe', in this day and age, Thank you. In Christ Jesus Chris
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    Hello @Solas, When I sought to answer this my mind went blank. Then into my mind came this, 'He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not. He came unto His own, and His own received Him not. But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.' (John 1:10-13) The Lord Jesus Christ Himself told us who 'His Own' were in this context: - 'the lost sheep of the house of Israel' (Matt.15:24); yet the record shows that 'His own received Him not', saying further, 'But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name.' It was a matter of receiving Him, by believing on His Name. Similarly,' Christ died for the ungodly': that is an all covering statement, isn't it? Yet not all the ungodly are saved. When we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, Yet that reconciliation had to be received, by believing what God said concerning His Son. I believe that Christ died for all, but that not all will receive Him. His blood avails for all, but all will not avail themselves of it: the knowledge of it, not being received with faith . His words are 'spirit; and they are 'life', They are heard by many but received by few. The entrance of His Word is light, but few are enlightened. Rambling, and incoherent it may sound to you, but I believe God. In Christ Jesus Chris
  7. Hello @Solas, Perhaps it does have little relation to the subject of the thread, however, the example of Timothy, being exhorted to rise above the arguments around him and seek to show himself approved unto God, by rightly dividing the Word of Truth, is a good one to keep in mind when endeavouring to make known the Truth of God's Word. For it is so easy to get embroiled in argument and counter-argument which do not serve the truth. Thank you, Solas, In Christ Jesus our risen and glorified Saviour, Lord and Head. Chris
  8. Hello there, I have appreciated the informative input in this thread, however my mind goes to 2 Timothy 2:15, where Timothy surrounded as he is there in Ephesus by argument and strife of words, is exhorted to study to show himself approved unto God, a workman which needed not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of Truth. Vain disputation can subvert the hearers, and destroy the faith of some. In Christ Jesus Our risen and glorified Saviour, Lord and Head Chris
  9. Hello @William, I do not believe that God pre-destines some to salvation and others to judgment. I believe that the pre-destination of believers to be conformed to the image of His Son, and to 'the adoption of sons', is as a result of His foreknowledge. He knows those who will come to salvation in advance of their coming. Predestination is consequent on salvation, not a prelude to it. In Christ Jesus Chris
  10. Thank you,@William, Yes, God foreknows those who are His. They are indeed individuals, who do come to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, by God's grace, and thereby receive the spirit of sonship whereby they can say, 'Abba', Father. He knows who they are in advance, and is thereby able to pre-destine them accordingly in the way of His choosing. I see no difference in our understanding of this, but I thank you for your notes. In Christ Jesus Chris
  11. ' In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was (or became) without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.' (Genesis 1:1-2) Hello @Origen, I have just responded to a thread you created concerning the figure of speech called 'idiom'; and here in these two verses there is another figure of speech. It is called, 'anadiplosis or 'like sentence endings and beginnings': the repetition of the same Word or Words at the end of one sentence and at the beginning of another. The words repeated are thereby emphasised as being the most important words in the sentence, which we should consider when interpreting. In this case our attention is called to the fact that two things are referred to, 'the Heaven and the Earth', but that the following statement speaks only of one of them, leaving the other without consideration. Both were created 'in the beginning', but the earth at some time, and by some means, became 'empty and waste' (tohoo & bohoo). In Isaiah 45:18, it is stated clearly that the earth was not created so, 'He created it not tohoo'. So, what follows in Genesis one is a restoration. 'For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, (tohoo) He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.' (Isaiah 45:18) In Christ Jesus Chris
  12. Hello @laverne3, Romans 8:29-30, enabled me to understand this:- For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He did predestinate, them He also called: and whom He called, them He also justified: and whom He justified, them He also glorified.' * God has foreknowledge, therefore He can 'pre-destinate'. He has prior knowledge, and knows who will believe. He does not predestine one to salvation and another to judgement, but foreknowing, he is able to predestinate those who will believe the gospel concerning His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, and can predestinate that they should be conformed to the image of His Son, and receive the adoption as Sons:- 'Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,' (Eph 1:3-5) * Don't get caught up in the endless arguments on this subject, just believe what is written, and praise God. Praise His Holy Name! In Christ Jesus Chris
  13. 'And old shoes and clouted upon their feet, and old garments upon them; and all the bread of their provision was dry and mouldy.' (Joshua 9:5) (Q) What do you think of the word, 'clouted' or 'clouts' as in Jeremiah 38:11-12?
  14. Hello @Origen, Would it not mean to make a circuit? Or a round about course, eg.,2 Kings 3:9 - ' And he said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "The way through the wilderness of Edom." So the king of Israel went, and the king of Judah, and the king of Edom: and they fetched a compass of seven days' journey: and there was no water for the host, and for the cattle that followed them.' (2 Kings 3:8,9)
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