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    Predestination and prayer

    Hello to both @Theophilus & @Netchaplain, It is so good to see this subject commented on without dispute and the pointing of the finger: for it can be quite controversial, and polarising, can't it? I have enjoyed reading through both of your entries, for you have raised thought provoking points, which I will follow through privately. * God has foreknowledge, as has been said, and He knows the end from the beginning. It is also not His wish that any should perish, but that all should come to a knowledge of His saving grace. However, as we know, not all will hear with faith, not all will believe the gospel of the grace of God and believe on the all-sufficient sacrifice of His Son. He knows who will believe, because of His foreknowledge, and He is able to predestinate those who will believe accordingly:- 'For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate .. to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He did predestinate, .. them He also called: and whom He called, .. them he also justified: and whom he justified, .. them he also glorified.' (Romans 8:29-30) * These verses tell us that foreknowledge comes before predestination: * They tell us also what are believers predestinated to? - To be conformed to the image of His Son. Praise His Holy Name! In Christ Jesus Chris
  2. Hello @William, This reminds me of a verse from Scripture. 'Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.' (Ecclesiastes 7:29) In Christ Jesus Chris
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    Does Bible say "Don't look at signs."?

    'And God said ,"Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:' (Gen 1:14) Hello @porton, As you can see, one of God's purposes in placing lights in the firmament of heaven was for 'signs', and the wonders performed in Egypt are described as 'signs'. I wonder whether the idea of looking for signs being wrong came from the Lord's words in Matthew 16:1-4:- 'The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired Him that He would shew them a sign from heaven. He answered and said unto them, .. "When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. .... And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. ...... O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; ........ but can ye not discern the signs of the times? A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas." And he left them, and departed.' * The Lord Jesus expected them to be able to discern the times, that His presence among them heralded. * Also, we are to abserve the signs around us, with the view to the Lord's return, as in Luke 21:11,2 & 25-26- 'And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.' ' And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.' * There is much more within Scripture about such signs, so it is obvioiusly not wrong to look for them. * There are signs which are looked for by mankind which are not of God, from directions other than from the written Word of God: pagan signs, and signs derived from man's devices and inventions, and we are not ignorant of them, but to go down those paths will only lead to deception and falsehood. Within the love of Christ our Saviour, our Lord and Head. Chris
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    May I introduce myself

    Hello there, Mike, Forgive me, the name 'Chris' gives no indication of gender, for it can be a shortened form of Christopher or Christine. In my case it is Christine. My husband and I have remained together, He portrays all the grace and love of God to me in His kindness towards me, I am very blessed. The Lord has been gracious. He is a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, Praise His Holy Name! Thank you. In Christ Jesus Chris
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    May I introduce myself

    Hello there, I have been taking part on the forum for several weeks now, but today I saw the 'Welcome Mat', and realised that I had not really introduced myself. The Lord brought me to a knowledge of my need of a Saviour at the age of twelve years. I actually lived on the premises of an undenominational mission hall, and had been attending the services and taking part in the life of the assembly generally, since I was eight years old. However it was at a rally organised by the 'Youth For Christ' organisation that I came under conviction, hearing and believing the gospel of God concerning His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. During my teens I had a period of falling away, during which I married and had two daughters. Mercifully the Lord brought me back to Himself and the process of growth began, as I read God's Word and fellowshipped with other Christians in a house-group situation. When the house group disbanded as the young people went on to university and members decided to join local churches. I also joined a Congregational Church community. However, after just a few years a radical change took place and I found myself walking a lone path. That radical change was brought about by applying the principle of 2 Timothy 2:15, and learning to rightly divide the Word of Truth. The truths of Ephesians one, and the knowledge of being made 'complete' in Christ Jesus, holy and without blame, of being accepted in the Beloved, made meet to partake of the inheritance of the saints in light, became such precious truth, as I came to realise just what being a member of the Church which is His Body, the fulness of Him that filleth all in all meant. This is where I remain. The Lord has brought fellowship my way, mostly in one's and two's, and opportunities for witness, and mutual edification, but I have not been led to join another Christian fellowship community. I hope that there will be opportunity here, on the forum, to share the Word of God, and interact with other believers, in a loving environment. In Christ Jesus our risen and glorified Saviour, Lord and Head. Chris
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    I Love Deuteronomy

    'Therefore say unto the house of Israel, .. Thus saith the Lord GOD; .... I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, ...... which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. And I will sanctify My great name, which was profaned among the heathen, .. which ye have profaned in the midst of them; .... and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, ...... I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.' (Eze 36:22-23) 'For I will take you from among the heathen, .. and gather you out of all countries, .... and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: ,, from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.' (Eze 36:24-25) A new heart also will I give you, .. and a new spirit will I put within you: ,,,, and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, ...... and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put My spirit within you, .. and cause you to walk in My statutes, .... and ye shall keep My judgments, and do them.' (Eze 36:26-27) 'And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; .. and ye shall be My people, and I will be your God. .... I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, ,, and lay no famine upon you. ,,,, And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, ,,,,,, and the increase of the field, ,,,,,,,, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.' Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, ,, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations. (Eze 36:8-30) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: .. be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel. .... Thus saith the Lord GOD; ...... In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities ........ I will also cause you to dwell in the cities .......... and the wastes shall be builded. ............ And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by. And they shall say, .. This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; .... and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited. ...... Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know ........ that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: .......... I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it.' (Eze 36:32-36) 'Thus saith the Lord GOD; .. I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; .... I will increase them with men like a flock. ...... As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her solemn feasts; ........ so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: .......... and they shall know that I am the LORD.' (Ezekiel 36:37-38) Praise God!
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    I Love Deuteronomy

    'The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do His commandments: His praise endureth for ever.' (Psa 111:10) Hello there, I love the book of Deuteronomy too. Thankfully, the fear of the Lord is 'the beginning' of wisdom, and not the 'end'. 'Thus saith the LORD, .. Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, ....neither let the mighty man glory in his might, ...... let not the rich man glory in his riches: But let him that glorieth glory in this, .. that he understandeth and knoweth Me, .... that I am the LORD ...... which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, ........ in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.' (Jeremiah 9:23-24) Praise God! In Christ Jesus Chris
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    What About Hebrews 6?

    'Wherefore, beloved, .. seeing that ye look for such things, .... be diligent that ye may be found of Him in peace, ...... without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; .. even as our beloved brother Paul also .... to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; ...... As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; ........ in which are some things hard to be understood, .......... which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, ............ as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, .. seeing ye know these things before, .... beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, ...... fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, .. and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. .... To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.' ( 2 Peter 3:14-18) Hello there, I have been taught that the epistle to the Hebrews was written by the Apostle Paul. It should be read and believed, not wrestled with, remembereing to what company it was written, and at what time. The danger was that these believers, who were wavering, would fall back into Judaism. In Christ Jesus Chris
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    Non-Denominational:- Why?

    Thank you, @Becky, Yes I have read the statement of faith now, including the creeds quoted within it. Thank you. In Christ Jesus Chris
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    Non-Denominational:- Why?

    Hello @William, I appear to have made a bad start in my approach to this forum. For you, and your fellow members, who have responded in this thread, seem to be under the impression that I am seeking to deliberately withhold the information you require of me, concerning my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. I am not averse to giving answer for the hope that is within me to anyone who asks me. However I do not believe it is necessary for me to acknowledge any creed of man's devising. I am not affiliated to any body of believers, so have no creed. I believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, His person and His work, and trust in the efficacy of His all-sufficient sacrifice, and the promise of God made on the basis of that sacrifice. Which is life through His Name. I hope we can still share fellowship with one another. In Christ Jesus Chris It is now January 1st 2019!! " May God's perfect will be done, both in the world around us, and within and through us, that His Name be glorified, In Christ Jesus Amen
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    Non-Denominational:- Why?

    Hello @Faber, I categorically do believe in the Deity of Christ. The word trinity is a divisive, man-made term: I prefer to refer to what the Scriptures actually tell us about God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Thank you. In Christ Jesus Chris
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    Non-Denominational:- Why?

    Hello @Origen, No matter how one words a reply on this subject it is bound to bring criticism in it's wake it seems. The Scripture records the activities of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit: whether the word 'person' is the most appropriate one to describe these three separate manifestations of God, I do not know; but God does: so I will leave it with Him, who alone knows all things. Thank you In Christ Jesus my Saviour, Lord and Head. Chris
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    Non-Denominational:- Why?

    Hello there, @William, Will you please read what I have said, and not seek to interpret my lack of response regarding the Nicene creed (by a 'yes' or 'no' answer) as meaning that I am not in agreement with it. I simply cannot answer each point with a simple 'yes' or 'no'. You do not want any other form of response, therefore I have declined to comment on it at all, but that does not mean that I am in disagreement What is the matter with you all. You all seem so combative. From my very first entry there has been pressure and demand. Which is not very inviting. In Christ Jesus Chris
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    Non-Denominational:- Why?

    Hello @Faber, With respect, my words were clear and require no interpretation. God is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and my Father, in Him. I believe what the Scriptures say concerning Him, and have no idea what modalism is, nor do I wish to know. Thank you. In Christ Jesus our risen and glorified Saviour, Lord and Head. Chris
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    Non-Denominational:- Why?

    Hello @Becky, Actually, I did not see the question. I do believe that God is One God: but the testimony of Scripture is clear that God is manifested in three distinct ways, as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Three operations of One God, working in conjunction to fulfill His purpose. For example, in John 5:21 it is recorded that the Father quickeneth His children, and also that the Son quickeneth them, then in John 6:63 it is said that it is the Spirit that quickeneth. 'For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom He will.' (John 5:21) 'It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.' (John 6:63) Thank you. In Christ Jesus our risen and glorified Saviour, Lord and Head. Chris

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