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  1. I wish to be removed from the rolls of ChristForums' members, and to be permanently banned from its premises; viz: consider this post to be my resignation.
  2. I will answer your question if you will answer mine. How do you respond to Revelation 14:6-7? Is the angel's message a real gospel or a fake gospel? Does the angel deserve the curse about which Paul wrote at Galatians 1:8-9?
  3. According to Matt 10:28, the body and the soul are perishable. However; though the body is perishable by any means, the soul is perishable only by divine means; i.e. the deaths of body and soul aren't necessarily simultaneous, viz: the soul lives on until such a time as God decides to either terminate it or let it live. Solomon believed that one's spirit returns to God when we die. However, Solomon didn't say what God does with it and that's because Solomon's knowledge was limited; while Jesus Christ's knowledge is unlimited. So, I would suggest that everyone pay attention to Jesus' comments because he's actually seen the afterlife for himself whereas Solomon, as far as we know, had not yet seen it for himself when he penned Ecclesiastes. His knowledge went no further than the grave, while Jesus Christ's knowledge extends beyond the grave.
  4. The hell depicted in Rev 20:11-15 is a very different environment than the hell depicted in Luke 16:19-31. The one in Luke is apparently a furnace while the one in Rev 20:11-15 is a liquid. In addition, the furnace is slated to be thrown into the liquid.
  5. Rom 12:13a . . Share with God's people who are in need. I'm guessing "God's people" pertains to Jews. (Matt 25:31-46 and Rom 15:25-27) FYI: The Jews are God's people in accordance with a covenant that He made with their ancestor Abraham. (Gen 17:7-8) Rom 12:13b . . Practice hospitality. Webster's defines hospitable as: (1) given to generous and cordial reception of guests, (2) promising or suggesting generous and cordial welcome, (3) offering a pleasant or sustaining environment. In other words; a hospitable person is civil, courteous, thoughtful, easy on one's nerves, helpful, approachable, accommodating, and relaxing to be with. Rom 12:14 . . Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. The koiné Greek word for "persecute" is dioko (dee-o'-ko) which means to pursue; i.e. to hound. In other words; a persecuting personality is one whose mission in life is to ruin somebody's day at every opportunity; and they are pretty good at finding ways to do it. Christians are under orders to remain calm with toxic people and not let them discourage the practice of hospitality.
  6. Heresy is subjective. For example Catholics think Protestants are heretics and vice versa; Jehovah's Witnesses think everybody's a heretic and vice versa. Even among Protestant denominations, one thinks another is heretical and vice versa. †. Tim 2:19 . . The Lord knows those who are his Seeing as how God alone really knows who is and who isn't a heretic; it's wise to practice tolerance just in case it is yourself on the wrong side of the aisle and don't know it. It ain't what you know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so. (Mark Twain)
  7. No need to apologize. You have the right to an opinion; same as that angel in Rev 14:6-7
  8. †. Ps 139:15-16 . . When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. Women's tummies aren't located in the depths of the earth. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of Adam's creation. At that time, God saw his entire biological posterity all in one glance plus everything there is to know about them. Pretty amazing. When I was a young boy coming of age I asked my mother this question: Mom, if God knows in advance everything there is to know about me, and everything I'm ever going to do; how do I have a free will? Mom was stumped.
  9. †. Gen 2:1-3 . .Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it He had rested from all His work which God created and made. The six days of creation were all neatly wrapped and packaged by evenings and mornings. Not so the seventh day; i.e. the seventh day is open-ended; which tells me that God hasn't created anything new for the current cosmos in all this time. So then, infants aren't miracles; i.e. God takes no active part in their coming along; He doesn't have to. The reason being that the blessing of procreation (Gen 1:28) enabled Adam not just to replicate his body, but primarily to transfer his life to succeeding generations. In other words: there has always been only one human life from which all of Adam's posterity derives its consciousness. That's pretty amazing when you think about it. Here's an interesting incident from Genesis. "When Rachel saw that she was not bearing Jacob any children, she became jealous of her sister. So she said to Jacob: Give me children, or I'll die! Jacob became angry with her and said: Am I in the place of God, who has kept you from having children? (Gen 30:1-2) Well; Rachel was sure right about one thing: men are definitely in the place of God when it comes to transferring Adam's life from one generation to the next.
  10. †. Acts 17:22 . . Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: "Men of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. The koiné Greek word translated "very religious" is a tongue twister; it's deisidaimonesteros (dice-ee-dahee-mon-es'-ter-os) which basically means to be obsessed with religion. Anyway, Paul then goes on to preach not Jesus' gospel, rather, elements of the everlasting gospel as per Rev 14:6-7, which is based upon the very first chapter of the book of Genesis. †. Acts 17:23-25 . . For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO AN UNKNOWN GOD. Now what you worship as something unknown I am going to proclaim to you. . . .The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. Paul didn't jump into the middle of the Bible with the Athenians, rather, he began with them right from the opening gun with the creation of the cosmos with all of it's from of life, matter, and energy; along with the origin of mankind. †. Acts 17:26 . . From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth The Greek word translated "nation" is from ethnos (eth'-nos) which basically speaks of race as it pertains to ethnic identity. In the beginning, Adam and Eve were one in every sense of the word except gender; the reason being that she wasn't a separate creation made from the dust of the Earth, rather, she was constructed from a human tissue sample amputated from Adam's already existing human body; i.e. Eve wasn't a new coin, so to speak, rather, she was the flip side of the same coin so that Eve's biological posterity aren't new coins either; instead; they are extensions of Adam; i.e. more Adam instead of more people. On the cover of the latest issue of O magazine, the question is asked: She gave you life . . are you really giving her a coffee mug? Well; that's very sentimental; but it's a half truth. Your mom wasn't the source of your life-- that distinction belongs to Adam, just as he was the source of Eve's life. Kelly Ripa, the talk show host, once remarked that men should pick up the tab for dinner because women have the babies. Well; who was it gave birth to Eve? Wasn't it a man? Yes; every woman alive today owes her existence not to a woman: to a man.
  11. †. Luke 13:4-5 . . Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. The koiné Greek word for "tower" in that passage is purgos (poor'-gos) which is an ambiguous word that can mean not only an isolated structure like a skyscraper; but also a special battlement which protrudes from the face of a castle's curtain wall-- consisting of crenellations, merlons, and machicolations --providing occupants a tactical advantage for observing and defending the curtain wall's exterior face. Sometimes though, purgos were simply architectural facades that made otherwise insipid stone walls aesthetically pleasing to the eye. In the days prior to steel reinforcing bar and structural steel beams, purgos (which were often constructed of either stones or bricks or wood) weren't all that stable, and sometimes crumbled; thus detaching themselves from the curtain wall like an old swallow's nest; resulting in pieces raining down on whoever happened to be standing below. The tower depicted in Luke was possibly a decorative part of an architectural enclosure surrounding the pool of Siloam. (cf. John 9:7) The people who were killed when that tower collapsed, weren't killed by the hand of God. No, they were just simply in the wrong place at the wrong time; viz: it was just dumb luck. It's like when people plan all month for a camping trip in the mountains. Upon arrival, they set up camp; and after lunch, walk a hiking trail. Just then, a tree limb, that's been silently growing in the forest for who knows how many years, suddenly decides to snap off and fall to earth right then; subsequently killing one of the campers just as they walk under it. One minute earlier and it would have missed. One minute later and it would have missed. But no, the limb falls right on cue as if the forces of nature conspired to hold that tree limb in place till just the right moment; waiting for that one specific person to walk under it. In a similar incident Friday, Feb 19, 2010 --a centuries-old Mosque minaret in Meknes Morocco collapsed and fell into a crowd of worshippers during prayer time, killing 41. Saturday, June 27, 2010, a 6-month-old baby girl was killed and her mother seriously injured when the pair were struck by a falling tree branch in New York City's Central Park Zoo. The girl's father was taking their picture near the sea lion exhibit when a branch above them suddenly snapped off and fell. On Tuesday, July 3, 2007; nineteen year-old Ramiro Gonzalez was returning home to Nyssa Oregon from a week-end honeymoon in northern California with his bride Idalia asleep in the back seat when their 1997 Pontiac Grand Am hit a cow twenty miles east of Burns. The Pontiac went off the road, through a fence, and burst into flames. Idalia escaped with only minor injuries, but Ramiro died at the Ste. Charles Medical Center in Bend the very next day. Ramiro and his bride didn't get to live in a home of their own for even one single minute of their marriage-- never had a baby, never joined the PTA, never saved for college, never went to ballet lessons, nor to soccer or little league, never went on family picnics, never took home movies and photos at Christmas, Easter, or birthdays, never went to the beach and built sand castles --no, their entire future, and all their dreams of family life, were shattered in an instant by a lame-brained bovine; and Ramiro wasn't even 20 years old yet. March 20, 2008; fifty-seven year old Judy Kay Zagorski, of Pigeon, Michigan, was sitting in the front seat of her father's boat going 25 knots on the Atlantic Ocean side of Vaca Key in Florida, when a Spotted Eagle Ray, with a wingspan of 5 to 6 feet; leaped up out of the water-- for who knows what reason --and collided with Zagorski, knocking her backwards onto the deck of the boat. She died from the impact. Judy's sister, standing next to her, was not injured. On a November morning in 1998, Alan Pakula climbed into his Volvo station wagon and began the 100-mile drive from Manhattan to his Long Island house. The acclaimed movie director of Sophie's Choice, All The President's Men, and The Pelican Brief, had made that trip countless times with no incident. As the 70 year-old Pakula neared exit 49 on the Long Island Expressway just before noon, the tires of a vehicle ahead of him flipped a 7-foot piece of steel rod into the air. Within seconds, the rod shot through Pakula's windshield, smashing into his forehead, killing him almost instantly. Death often comes when people least expect it. As a rule, they don't usually get up in the morning planning it to be their last day on earth. The 169,752 killed, and 127,294 listed as missing in more than eleven countries by the tsunami of 2004, were taken by surprise, and given no warning it was to be their last day on earth. The 2,829 people who perished in a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and the 189 who died in the Pentagon, didn't go in to work expecting their lives to end before lunch that day. No, people's lives often end while they still have obligations and commitments, aspirations, things to do, places to go, and people to see; when a car accident, train wreck, act of nature, plane crash, crime, heart attack, or stroke puts an abrupt end to every plan they ever made. Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010, a 7.0 earthquake struck Port au Prince Haiti right out of the blue subsequently causing the loss of more than 200,000 lives. A similar act of nature on March 11, 2011, left 25,000 dead and/or missing in Japan. Okeechobee woman Dawn Johnston, 38, was killed Wednesday June 30, 2010 after part of a portable toilet crashed through her car's windshield. Dawn was driving south on SR 15 shortly after 11 a.m. when two portable toilets fell from the trailer of a pickup truck traveling north,. The portable toilets shattered when they hit the road, and a piece of one of them crashed through the woman's windshield, striking her. Johnston's car then veered off the road and collided with a tree. A rain-saturated hillside above the Stillaguamish River on the outskirts of the rural town of Oso in the State of Washington gave way March 22, 2014 leaving behind a current death toll of 41 souls. The landslide happened to suddenly and so rapidly that nobody saw it coming and/or had the slightest chance of getting out of the way. Listed among the dead and missing was a four-month old infant. Freak incidents like those listed above can happen to anybody in the form of a stray bullet from a drive-by, lightening strike, gas explosion, choking on a piece of meat, electrocution, earthquake, a drunk driver, a fall in the bath tub; bricks dropped from an overpass, or any number of out-of-the-blue surprises. I don't think Christ was saying that repentance will protect people from dying in an unexpected incident, but rather, that if they don't start thinking about the afterlife now, while they have the chance; then they risk being caught off guard by sudden death where there will be no time to think; and they'll find themselves suddenly thrust into the afterlife a lot sooner than they ever expected. I was taught in catechism that repentance always means sorrow and regret for one's sins; but I don't think that's what Christ was getting at. The koiné Greek word for "repent" in his statement is metanoeo (met-an-o-eh'-o) which means: to think differently; viz: to reconsider-- in other words: to change one's mind and/or change one's direction. Christ preceded his statement recorded in Luke 13:4-5 with another like it. †. Luke 13:1-3 . . There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. The record doesn't explain why Pilate executed those men in particular; nor even where the executions took place. But just for brevity's sake, I'll assume for now that those particular men were known insurrectionists, and the executions took place on the grounds of the Temple compound in Jerusalem while the men were there to worship. In other words: the men were pounced upon in a place they would never suspect; and Pilate's soldiers sprung on the Galileans so suddenly and so efficiently that the men had no chance to either escape or to defend themselves. It's at a time like that when your religion of choice had better be the right one because you'll have neither time nor opportunity to reconsider and covert to another. †. Ecc 9:12 . . For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them. POP CLOCK UPDATE: 10 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 663,820 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Apr 13, 2018.
  12. Rom 12:12b . . Be patient in trouble, and always be prayerful. Patience is something every so-called mature adult is supposed to have but relatively few seem able to produce. What we're talking about here is "composure" which Webster's defines as calmness: especially of mind, manner, or appearance. Composure is pretty easy to maintain when nothing is bothering us; but not so easy when we're upset, frightened, worried, nervous, angry, irritated, annoyed, over-worked, dead tired, under pressure, stressed, chafed, interrupted, ignored, cut off in traffic, in deep credit card debt, a sudden death in the family, behind in your mortgage, your car payments and/or your student loan; injured, life changing news like your job outsourced to China or you've got cancer, involved in a school shooting, and/or your spouse announces they've met someone and wants a divorce. People tend to come unglued at times like that. †. 1Pet 4:12 . . Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. A "painful trial" can be likened to a process to which assayers subject samples of gold to evaluate its worth as a precious metal. If somebody can maintain their composure under the conditions I listed above, I'd have to say that they are a high-value gold. As for the rest of us; we would no doubt benefit from a dose of the fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5:22) hence the enjoinder to "always be prayerful".
  13. See post #1 This area of ChristForums is designated for devotionals. I should think that people with a proclivity to quarrel, criticize, debate, and find fault are better served elsewhere. FYI: If you prefer a better quality devotional than mine; there's a very popular one available called Our Daily Bread that's been around for a long time. It's not only instructional; but also quite entertaining. It's available in children's versions too.
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