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  1. Just wondering, was this you calling me a liar ? That quote at the bottom says "your opinions are not Scriptural"
  2. Show me where I ever called anyone a liar, so as to claim that I have is a baseless charge by you. I don't fuss with people so if that is your bag I will leave this site for good. I state a fact, God can not lie, so we should believe the plain and simple text wherever possible, as a preacher of over 30 years that is the first rule of teaching the scriptures. I could disagree with most every post you post but I don't bother because I sense you don't like me for whatever reason and so I just don't reply to you, but you trying to say I called someone a liar is a cheap shot and you shot just stop it. Jesus Christ died for our sins and gives us the spirit of love to one another, to claim someone is calling anyone else a liar because I stated God can't lie which is a basic tenant of Christianity is not only confusing is confounding. I have taught this for over 30 years and never heard anyone say that bringing forth the God can not lie argument is calling someone a liar, but you. If you want me to leave just ask, I will, it's no big deal I share the Gospel on many, many sites, I have my win blog, youtube and Disqus sites. All that will happen is you will lose a guy that has spent many years studying about prophecy and who has been shown much by the grace of God via what these riddles mean. I don't mind a disagreement, but I get riled up when someone makes a bogus claim about me calling brothers or sisters liars, I would never do that and your interpretation of that is wrong and I think you know it's wrong. Remember, God knows our hearts. What I really sense is someone who lets a Mod position go to your head, and instead of allowing your Christian spirit t shine through you allow the power trip to overtake you. I don't play that nonsense, I will call you out and you can ban me like the mod I described, or maybe you can apologize to a servant of Jesus Christ who has spent his life helping others, for saying he called other people liars !! Alas, just ask me to leave if that is what you really want, that way you and 2 or 3 others can always be "RIGHT" on everything you say, eve when you are wrong. There is a 1000 year reign. I am out of here, now I see why this place is dead, you have a Mod on a power trip. I allow no one to dictate what I preach.
  3. Of course there is a 1000 year reign by Jesus on earth, there are 100's of prophecies that can't be fulfilled without the 1000 year reign of Christ and God can't lie. The wicked are judged in 1000 years and the Sea gives up the dead. There is no Sea in in the new heaven and earth. Rev. 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Rev. 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. I have often wondered why people don't want there to be a 1000 year reign, though there has to be one else God's a liar. I really don't get it unless it makes someone's beliefs to be in error, but still, why not just change to what the bible says. Its obvious why there is a 1000 year reign, its to juxtapose Satan's reign over mankind and the people who followed him with Jesus Christs reign, this will be the final nail in Satan's coffin, this is why he is cast into a pit for 1000 years, his argument would be I only tempted them, they were destined for evil anyway, to which God will say, SEE THIS 1000 YEAR REIGN OF Christ ? It proves you are a liar Satan.
  4. The book of Revelation is one huge "CODE BOOK" with 284 of the 404 verses having Old Testament verbiage in them. Why would anyone think that Revelation using a "Metaphor" for the city be a strange event ? The whole book is metaphors !! It is a code book and the Old Testament is used to decode it. For instance the Woman with the sun, moon and stars clothing her in Rev. ch 12 is solved via Genesis 37:9. Joseph dreamed that the sun (Jacob), moon, (Rachel) and 11 stars (his brothers) would pay obedience unto him. 1. a man is called the Beast 2. a seven headed Beast = 7 Kingdoms 3. locusts are demonic beings 4. the spirit of God is the 7 spirits 5. all false religion is the Harlot Etc. etc. it goes on and on, so why would a "CITY" representing something be odd ? It's obvious that the city is Babylon because that is what's tattooed on her head, it's one of four descriptions. Babylon will never be a city again. Babylon stands for the head of gold, and for all the kingdoms under Satan, the statue will be destroyed by Jesus. The harlot is not Babylon, and there is no Mystery, verse 7 tells us there is no mystery because the angel stated I will explain the mystery unto you. So its only yet a mystery to those who can't understand the explanation. Babylon is where harlotry was birthed, its only one clue as per who she is. The others are obvious, False Religion is an Abomination (Abominations of the earth), False Religion was birthed in Babylon hence she is the Mother of Harlots. False Religion was at its zenith in Babylon. The Harlot is False Religion, Babylon is False Governance. The Purple and scarlet represent Religion and Royalty (Gov.). All of these governments and false religions have one thing in common, they do not recognize the authority of God. The United States was founded on what ? Jesus Christ is Lord of lords and King of kings........."all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." The USA has taken the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the masses worldwide via our Constitutional Rights. I am proud to a citizen, yet we have people who say the USA is Babylon, or is the Beast. It kind of puzzles me to be honest.
  5. It's a City, a country on name only, it's not a Geo-political power and never will be. Why would Islam be the False Prophet ? He's a MAN just like the Beast is a Man, Rev. 19:20 tells us the Beast and False Prophet are cast into hell, Rev. 20:10 then tells us that after 1000 years Satan will be cast into hell where the Beast and False Prophet AWAIT him [in hell]. The False Prophet comes out of the Land/Earth meaning he is a Jew. The Beasts all arise out of the [Gentile] Sea meaning they are not Jews. Thus he has looks like a Lamb with two horns but speaks like a Dragon. He will be the Jewish High Priest when the Anti-Christ comes to power, and he will work hand in hand with the Anti-Christ/Beast. We had a forerunner to him when Antiochus Epiphane came to power as the forerunner to the Anti-Christ, a Jew named Jason (real name Yeshua) who paid to have his pious High Priest brother Onias III killed and then tried to Hellenize Jerusalem/Jews. The Jews fought back however. So I think Jason was a forerunner to the False Prophet.
  6. Babylon is the whole world or the mass of people on earth that follow Satan hence Babel means confused, hence those that fight against God and for the Beast and his master the Red Dragon (Satan) are by definition "CONFUSED". The Harlot is destroyed by the Beast and his 10 Kings and Babylon (the world governed by Satan) will be brought to its knees by the Seal, Trumpet and Vial Judgments, then Jesus will take over and rule for a 1000 years, then we will get a new heaven and earth and this world as we know it will be no more. If this world becomes an inferno then this earth might be where Hell is located. This world is supposed to melt away according to Peter.
  7. The 1000 years is as a day and a day is as a 1000 years to God has no exponential meaning whatsoever. It is meant to convey the message that God is not subject to time, in that God created time for us humans when He created the Universe. God being eternal has no need of ever having been created, thus all thing subject to time (or born in our universe) via the Scientific Laws of Nature, must needs of have been created, but God is not from this realm, He is from outside our universe. Thus the Laws of nature need not apply to God. Basically a 1000 years is as a day to God can be summed up in this saying ALSO.....God is not subject to the Laws of Nature per our Universe. Both statements say the same thing.
  8. I tend to agree here, especially for Demons, and probably for Humans also.
  9. Well then we agree, the Harlot is all False Religion. Islam has 2 Billion members of the Harlot Sect as we speak. The harlot gets destroyed, so when we see that 1/4 of all mankind gets killed (2 Billion people) a large majority of that will be Islam who is brought to heel by the Beast. The Prophecy will come to pass at a future point in time, the harlot gets destroyed at that point in time. It says the Kings HAVE Fornicated with her and those are PAST Kings (5 have Fallen....ONE IS.....And one is YET TO COME) and One future King. If all the Saints are Mentioned then therein lies your Prophets, and Jesus spoke of the blood of the Prophets. The Saints can only be the Jews here, else if they were all God's people the Martyrs of Jesus would have no need of ever being mentioned !! That is just logical deductive reasoning. We know in the Old Testament Daniel called the Jews the Saints. Thus John is calling the Jews the Saints and the Christians the Martyrs of Jesus. There are probably many other Churches that have the blood on its hand if you add like that, should we add Germany and her Churches ? Or even England I mean they tortured Christians and made some people confess to being witches as did the American/Puritan Churches. Why do we continue to hold people at fault for old sins of a 1000 years ago ? I mean all Churches have gone astray at times I would venture to say, especially the Churches who were affiliated with State Governments like the Church of England, the RCC, and others, you get an entwinement of the two and the mission focus gets perverted. My point of emphasis is on who the Harlot is in full, so we can understand what is going on, we do not need to think its the RCC when in truth it is All False Religions of all time and the biggest part of her has to be Islam, which the Beast will wipe out. That's why it's called the Judgment of the Harlot.
  10. That still doesn't make her the Harlot. Nor can she be as per all the clues. False Religion will have done all you cite and much more, but the RCC can not account for all the deaths. If someone says 2 + 2 = 3 it doesn't add up brother. We can't allow ourselves to get tunnel vision. The truth is all that matters, not what we see at first, because we as humans see darkly, we have to wade through Satan's deceptions daily, he's always coming at us with half truths. Like he did Adam and Eve....thou shall not surely die.
  11. Another FALSE CLUE that many people chase after. If we are in St. Louis heading to Los Angeles and head east we will never get there, likewise by going down erroneous paths we can get on paths that lead us unto untruths, all because we start out with wrong assumptions. There is no way this could ever be speaking about 7 hills or mountains in one city. That is because it's obviously speaking about 7 different Kingdoms places. Rev. 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. {{ So the Angel is about to explain the Mystery of the Harlot (False Religion) that Rides (co-mingles) the Beast (Government Dominion of the Mediterranean Sea Region) which has seven heads or Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the coming Anti-Christ and 10 Kings. }} 8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. {{ This Scarlet Colored Beast is Apollyon (Demon), he was placed over the Mediterranean Sea Region (MSR) by the Red Dragon (Satan), Apollyon is a principality and power like unto which Paul spoke of in Ephesians 6:12. The reason he WAS....IS NOT....YET IS is because he WAS over the MSR from Egypt to Rome and then when the Church was birthed the gates of hell had no power over the Church and Israel was also as Dead Men's Bones for nigh 2000 years, so God placed him in the Bottomless Pit thus he IS NOT.....but he will be released at the First Woe this he YET IS. This is why he is an 8th King and is OF THE SEVEN. }} 9 The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. {{ The proper translation, not that it matters that much, is THEY ARE ALSO SEVEN KINGS.......................... Anyway, so the Seven Heads are Seven Mountains (Greek word Oros meaning one that arises above the plains) on which the Harlot (False Religion) woman sits. So where or how do we get that the SEVEN HILLS/Mountains are in one city ? It tells us very plainly in verse 9 that they represent the seven heads, which are the Kingdoms over the MSR down through the ages, so how can they be meant to speak about seven hills in one city ? It's a FALSE CLUE !! The Mountains meaning are clear, they represent SEVEN KINGS who have fallen, each Kingdom had a King at the helm when they came to be a Beast and a King at the helm when the fell from Dominion. John clearly states 5 have FALLEN (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Greece).....ONE IS (Rome) and one is YET TO COME (Anti-Christ/Little Horn) so someone please explain to me how that turns into ONE CITY on 7 Hills or Mountains !! When the last Beast somes he will rule a short time (42 Months). }} Why is this done ? Why are the Seven Kingdoms reduced to Seven Kings who fell ? Because God wants us to know that the LAST BEAST is not a Kingdom per se like the others, but is a MAN thus he is shown to be the only one of all the Beast Kingdoms that is started by a man who then will be the King who also FALLS/Loses Dominion. This MAN/Beast will be cast straight into hell fire, whereas the rest of the Beasts when they lost Dominion continued on for a time as Daniel 7:11-12 says Daniel 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. { He is cast straight int HELLFIRE } 12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. But the OTHER BEASTS...Babylon (Alexander the Great died there) Persia (Iran today) Greece (Greece today) and Rome (Italy today) who lose their dominion will remain in existence for a time and season after they lose dominion, WELL YEA....they have all been around over 2000 years since they lost dominion, Rome about 1700 years after they lost dominion. BUT......The last Beast will be different, he will be cast straight into hell !!
  12. I am not saying the RCC has anything to do with the Harlot, but it's possible the Hierarchy does. You have of course been converted to that understanding and it doesn't really match the scriptures at all, the Mystery Religions from Babylon do match up, they include the Babylonian gods, the Greek gods, the Roman gods, witchcraft, and any religion that puts forth a false god, the largest of which is Islam, which will be destroyed by the Beast and his Kings. The RCC puts forth Jesus as the Messiah I do think the Mormons and the SDA are cultic like in nature, but God will eventually Judge us all, He judges the Harlot during the 70th Week period. I was called unto Prophecy in 1986 and saw a Vision where I understood via a few words that "The Man of Sin is Here" and I have been preaching over 30 years bringing the message of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to a lost world. My motto is I engage with the broken hearted to bring God's glorious gospel to their souls, and I love Prophecy, because God called me to understanding these things, but I am not one to argue about the scriptures, I just try to teach what I have been taught and move on to others. So I just follow the Holy Spirit and back my understandings up via scriptures in every instance. I understand Satan is still trying to deceive, I see it all the time. I know that I used to believe some of the things I see being taught now long ago, so I am never harsh on people that come through what I went through, we all have our own journey in life. I just point out truths via the Scriptures that I have prayed about over time. The Harlot has the blood of all the saints and all the Prophets on her hand, the RCC was birthed Circa 150-200 A.D. so how can the RCC have the Prophets blood on her hands ? She cant !! Rev. 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, AND with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. There is only one reason to mention the blood of the SAINTS........AND.........the Martyrs of Jesus, and that is the Harlot has the blood of the Jewish Saints of Old and the Martyrs of Jesus on her hands. The RCC can not fit that bill. As a matter of fact she couldn't even have the First Century Martyrs of Jesus on her hands. She's described as a Mystery by John in 90 AD but she wasn't even around yet, she's described as being associated with Babylon the Great but the RCC never was. She is described as an Abomination and Mother of Harlots, that all fits False Religion which was birthed in Babylon and brought forth the many false gods, Astrology. the dark arts, witchcraft etc. etc. The RCC can never have the blood of the Saints that John was talking about on her hands, its just not possible.
  13. Yes sir, of course all of them are a part of the "Secret Societies" Go read my post on the Babylon thread, it's the LAST POST on the FIRST PAGE. It shows how Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz birthed all of these Mystery Religions that which went underground because Shem threatened to destroy them. The thing with the RCC, the Hierarchy is the corrupt part, most of the people who become Christians as Roman Catholics actually profess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior like us, they are not hip to much of what goes on via the Hierarchy of the Church. God will judge us all as individuals in reality. Islam would be a huge part of the Harlot that is destroyed, followed by any other belief that clashed with Jesus Christ being seen as Lord of lords, be it Witchcraft, Voodoo, Hinduism, any fake Christian Churches, God is going to judge them all. The 10 Kings in league with the Beast is going to destroy them all and Mandate Beast Worship. After the Rapture, no one will take leaders of the RCC serious if they are still on earth. That will be a sign they were bogus leaders !! We must remember, the Harlot s going to be killed off, thus those that say the Pope is the False Prophet contradict themselves. In actuality the False Prophet will be a Jewish High Priest who despises the fact that a large part of the Jews (1/3) turn to Christ Jesus Before the Day of the Lord like Malachi 4:5-6 says. Hes seething that they became Christians or Messianic Jews.
  14. I agree with a lot of the posts I have seen of yours, so whilst we might quibble or have a few issues I think for the most part we are moving along the same lines of thought, of course we are all corrected by the Spirit at times, if not we would know it all. From my experience the only people not able to learn new things are those who are never willing to say that we are wrong. So we need to be learning continually, but when the Holy Spirit gives us something, we know, that we know, that we know in our hearts it's a truth/factoid from God.......Know what I mean ? LOL. I don't think the City is a False Religion either, the Harlot is a False Religion, so I think you misunderstood my blog on this point or maybe I just worded it poorly. The Harlot is what John had a vision of, the Vision is only 4 verses and John SAW four descriptors that describe who the Harlot is. Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. This is the sum total of the vision, verses 1 and 2 are not a part of the vision, verses 7 tells us we are about to be explained what the vision means, verses 8-18 explains the vision. So what does the above vision mean ? It's the co-mingling of False Religion (Harlot) and False Governance (Babylon head of Gold, Persian breast of Silver, Grecian thighs of Bronze, Roman legs of Iron and the 10 toes and feet of Iron & Clay. That is why we get the clue of purple and scarlet (Royals & Religion), this is why we are told of Blasphemies on Seven Heads and 10 Horns (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the Anti-Christ and 10 Kings). Now to the Four Descriptors of which Babylon the Great is only one description. 1.) Mystery ( As I pointed out in the last post on the first page, Mystery Babylon is a Mystery Religion, but Babylon and the Harlot are not the same, they are two different entities, not one and the same, they have been co-mingled, but they are not one and the same. 2.) Babylon the Great ( John was told she is that Great City so he would understand that where she ORIGINATED FROM was Babylon who had 100's of false gods and demi-gods. So that Great City is her birth place, a description of where she's from, not who she is. 3.) The Mother of Harlots describes her to a tee, she is the Mother of All False Religions, thus she is the Mother Harlot. God sees any worship of any god but Him as Harlotry. 4.) Abominations of the Earth ( God sees the worship of false gods as an Abomination, He is a jealous God, He placed Israel into Captivity for worshiping false gods. So she is not Babylon the Great a City per se, that is just one of her Four Descriptions. A clue yo who she is and where she is from. Add all four clues up and what do you get ? Mystery + Babylon the Great + Mother of Harlots + Abominations of the Earth = All False Religion or False Religion. Babylon is world renown for its FALSE RELIGION. Astrology got its start there as did the Horoscope/Zodiac also. Many of the False Religions of the World got their start there. So these are just four clues as to who the Harlot is. Where she got her beginnings, what she is all about etc. etc. So Babylon that Great City has nothing to do with the Harlot's False Religion, its just where it all started. Babylon of Rev. 18 represents the Whole World or Satan's Dark Kingdom on earth. We agree its not Rome or the RCC, but I don't see it as Jerusalem either, nor any city for that matter. Oh well, I enjoy your posts, you are a well thought out poster. God Bless.
  15. We have to take all the clues not just the clues that affirm our understandings. The RCC does not fit all the clues. All the Prophets can not have been killed by the RCC, that ends that theory brother. It's not Jerusalem or Islam either, only ALL FALSE RELIGION fits, and that can include the RCC in part all of Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, maybe other Churches in part etc. etc. We are looking for who the Harlot is in full however, not in part.
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