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  1. That is why we must be born again of God's Spirit and given a new nature in Christ, which serves righteousness and not sin. I've found while debating these hyper grace followers that they believe if you remove the law you also remove sin, but all that makes for is a bunch of "lawless" sinners. Jesus said those who commit sin are servants of sin, and a servant of sin abides not in the house forever. But those who the Son makes free, they shall be free indeed. It is that sin nature we need to be made free from, not the law. Believing in Jesus Christ is also believing in the Truth, and as Jesus said the Truth shall make you free. The Son of God is the Word of God, and God's Word is the way, the truth and the Life. We are not made free from sin by removing the law, we are made free from sin by the putting to death of that old man of sin nature through the power of Christ's resurrection. And if you are truly made free by the power of God's Spirit then you will no longer serve sin. Those who commit sin are of the Devil, those who walk in the Spirit of righteousness are of God. You shall know a tree by his fruit. So if the deceiver has convinced you the law is the problem rather than sin, then you have believed the lies of the Devil; and no lie is of the Truth. We cannot make ourselves free by keeping the law, it is the Son of God who can make us free. Believing in the words of God is believing in Jesus Christ.
  2. You have a misunderstanding about the law and sin; which is why you see the law as the problem rather than sin. Here is a thread I posted on this topic which may help you to understand what Paul was saying---->>>>>https://www.christforums.org/forum/christian-community/covenant-theology/61821-the-curse-of-the-law There is an easy way to spot a false grace message. The true grace message says under God's grace sin shall not have dominion over you. The false grace message says under God's grace sin still has dominion over you. See the opposite message? Death reigns through sin. But God's grace reigns through righteousness. So though God's grace and imputed righteousness is a gift, if God's grace is active in your life by the Spirit, then you will no longer be serving the lusts of the flesh and sin. 1 Corinthians 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
  3. This is a common pattern I saw in hyper grace followers doctrine, as I also saw in your posts from the start. Hyper grace followers do not speak evil of sin, or even speak out against sin, but they do speak evil of God's law. There it is again, God's commands do not tempt anyone to sin. (James 1:13) Not true, most all claim to be grace teachers, but you will know them by their fruit. Joseph Prince is serving the "unrighteous mammon" and preaches a health, wealth, and prosperity doctrine which serves the lusts and desires of the flesh. You cannot serve 2 masters. I know his false doctrine well, as I fought against IT for over a year at another forum where this hyper grace movement had already over run the forum. This is another error of the hyper grace doctrine, they believe that after being born again of the Spirit we still serve both sin and righteousness, both the old man nature and the new man nature, both the flesh and the Spirit. If you live after the flesh you shall die. (Romans 8:13) Also the old man and his sin nature should be dead and gone, that is, if you are truly raised up a new man in Christ. 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. Again we see the error of the hyper grace doctrine which speaks evil of the law that was given by God, but does not speak evil of sin. This is also how I know this doctrine is not of God's Spirit. [h=1]James 1:13-14(KJV)[/h] 13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Also no one of God's Spirit would speak evil of God's law...... Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
  4. The above statement is also a sign of this new hyper grace movement and of the false doctrines of men, like with the t.v. evangelist Joseph Prince. This concept of continuing in sin, but at the same time declaring yourself as "perfect" in Christ is rooted in the doctrine of men called Dualism. I call it a doctrine of a "disassociated identity" because the person who is under this strong delusion believes their constant sinning in the flesh while in this world has no effect on their already obtained "spiritual perfection". So they try to mentally disassociate themselves from their sinful behavior, and believe they will not be held accountable for it because they are already "spiritually perfect". I've had people of this movement tell me a practicing homosexual is still in Christ, even though they continue in their sins. One guy told me, if that practicing homosexual died he would still be saved because he was already made perfect in Christ. This of course is foolishness because a practicing homosexual who never repented of his sinful behavior was never in Christ by the Spirit to begin with. This hyper grace movement is a fast growing deception which is pleasing to sinners because they believe they can sin all they want and still be saved, even while they commit abominations like homosexuality. I would advise you stay away from these doctrines as they are not of God.
  5. You need to be careful here because some of your posts sound like a man made doctrine called Antinomianism, which is "The doctrine or belief that the Gospel frees Christians from required obedience to any law," Sin is also defined by unrighteousness, as all unrighteousness is sin.(Romans 6:13,1 John 5:17) And we are told the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God.(1 Corinthians 6:9) Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Romans 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. God's word's are the truth,and if you abide in Christ you will also abide in His words. Also by God's Word and words all men shall be judged, for the Father has committed all judgment unto His Son.(John 5:22) 2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Again the greatest commandment is to Love the Lord thy God..... John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. But either with the law, or without the law, all men shall be Judged by God's Word.... Romans 2:5-16(KJV) 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
  6. Yes, the keeping of the law does not make us righteous, God does. But I would add to clarify, that keeping the commands of God is not unrighteousness. When we are born again of the Spirit the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in us. And the righteousness of the law goes back to the point of the OP, which is Love fulfills the righteousness of the law. [h=1]Romans 8:1-4(KJV)[/h] 8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
  7. Here is an easy way to look at it.... [h=1]Romans 5:19(KJV)[/h] 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. The above verse shows the 2 natures, the first is flesh in Adam vs. the nature of God's Spirit in Christ. We did not make ourselves, just as we do not give birth to ourselves. So if we are firstborn of the flesh in Adam we are also born into that sin nature. This is why we must be born again. But if we did not make ourselves the first time, nor give birth to ourselves the first time, then why think we can give birth or make ourselves the second time. We can't. Jesus said either make the tree good and his fruit good, or else make the tree evil and his fruit evil; for a tree is known by his fruit. So who makes trees? The trees don't make themselves, and so we like trees are made by our Maker. So like trees, if you are made a sinner in Adam you will produce sinful fruit unto death. But if you are made the righteousness of God through Jesus Christ you will also produce righteous fruit unto Life. For the tree is known by his fruit.
  8. Being made free from sin is not about the law of Moses,(as the law is not sin) it is about being made free from that sin nature of the flesh, which was working in mankind even before the law of Moses. That was the enmity that was shown in the beginning between the nature of the beast (serpent); which is a sin nature, and between the divine nature of God's Spirit. When sin entered into man and into the world man became servants of sin, which is the Devils desire; and thus as God said, sin would rule over man. This is what Paul showed when he said sin has reigned unto Death since Adam. So in order for mankind to be made free from this bondage of sin Christ came in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, putting away that sin nature in us by His own death, by this Jesus condemned sin in the flesh. And that is what Paul was showing in our old man of sin being crucified with Christ, and the putting off that old man sin nature, and then being raised up a new man renewed in the image of God's Son Jesus Christ. [h=1]Romans 6:11-23(KJV)[/h] 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. 19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. 20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. 21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. 22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
  9. If a person is truly born again of God's Spirit and is made righteous by the grace of God in Jesus Christ, then they will no longer be serving sin and still walking in unrighteousness. You are either a servant of sin or a servant of righteousness,you cannot serve 2 masters. Jesus said a servant of sin abides not in the house forever, just as Paul said unrighteousness shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. So even though we are under grace and not under the law, we are also not under the power of sin; to serve it with the lusts thereof. By spiritual rebirth through Jesus Christ we are now made dead to sin and to serving sin, and are now made alive to righteousness by spiritual rebirth in Christ; so that we can now worship and serve God by walking in the Spirit and serving righteousness. [h=1]Romans 6:1-7 (KJV)[/h] 6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
  10. I think what you may be misunderstanding is whose love it is, and whose righteousness it is that causes us to walk the path of righteousness. Notice it is God's grace that gives us faith as a gift in Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:" Also notice it is God's love and God's righteousness that is given to us by the gift of the Holy Spirit... Romans 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. Romans 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. Philippians 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:" So you see it is not our own love and our own righteousness that causes to walk in love and in righteousness, but it is God's love and Christ's righteousness dwelling in us by the gift of the Spirit that causes us to walk in righteousness. Jesus Christ is shown as being the righteousness of God in scripture, and Jesus came preaching that we should seek God's righteousness.... Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Again, not our own righteousness, but God's Righteousness... Romans 3:25 "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; Romans 3:26 "To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus." Again notice God's righteousness is a gift.... Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) And Christ working in us by the Spirit of God is now our righteousness.... 1 Corinthians 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. So the grace of God, the love of God, and the righteousness of God is given to us by the faith of Christ, so we can then walk as Christ walked. I wrote this study on God's righteousness which may help you understand....https://www.christforums.org/forum/christian-community/morality-and-laws/56781-the-righteousness-of-god Peace and God bless
  11. So Jesus Christ being raised up again, or begotten again, is like the new starting point of a whole new creation through the resurrection of Jesus Christ; as we are also shown in scripture as being made new creatures in Christ. So when the body of Jesus was raised up again, or made alive again, that prophecy was fulfilled in Psalm 2:7 of “that day” and of Jesus being begotten again. But this in no way suggests that God’s Word, or Son was not considered the only begotten Son of God prior to Jesus’ resurrection as some have suggested in the past. This just simply means that He was made alive again from the dead. Even God the Father called Christ His Son before Jesus’ death and resurrection. Also the scriptures confirm that God the Father created all things by His Son, which is His Word, and that He was also was with Him from the very beginning. God the Father in the beginning gave the power of Life to His Word, which is His only begotten Son, by which all things were created, exist, and have Life. Jesus said “As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.” And here Jesus said John 5:26 “For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;” This again shows the difference between the Father and His Son, as it also shows why Jesus Christ said the Father was greater than himself. The Father gave the power of life to His Son, not the other way around. The Son is begotten of the Father, not the other way around. The Father is the head of Christ, not the other way around. So when people use phrases of men like “God the Son” it teaches confusion because that is like saying “Father the Son.” But when you understand the Son of God is the very Word of God empowered by God the Father’s Spirit, all these many sayings of Jesus will begin to make perfect sense. And again in John 6:63 “It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” So as it was in the beginning God empowered His Word to have Life and to also give Life, as the Son was also resurrected again and given the power to give eternal Life to those who believe on Him. This notion of being begotten again, or made alive again is also shown in us by way of Christ in 1 Peter 1:3 “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,.” Even the Lord said in Revelation 1:5 “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” So simply put what is being said in Psalm 2:7 and Acts 13:33 is this, the only begotten Son of God was made alive again being the first born (begotten) from the dead as shown in Colossians 1:18 “And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.” Even the Lord confirms the same of being alive again, or begotten again from the dead and made alive forevermore. Revelation 1:18 “I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.” So I have concluded in my studies that the only begotten Son of God was already the only begotten Son of God even before Jesus was begotten again from the dead, or else how could God the Father say He sent His only begotten Son into the world prior to His death and resurrection as is also written? 1 John 4:9 “In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.” So for one to say the Son of God was not the “only begotten” Son of the Father until after the death resurrection of Jesus would make the above verse a false statement, and we know that is not the case. And concerning those whose names that are written in the Lambs book of Life from the foundation of the world, I believe it is the Father who gave those names whom He did foreknow to His Son. Notice what Jesus says here in John 17:1-3 “These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” And also in John 17:5 “And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. Now think about this in light of the Lord being the beginning and the end, the first and with the last, He also being the root and in the offspring. Christ being the One seed that was determined to die so that we might have eternal life through Him; and He also being the true Vine whereby we could also bear fruit by abiding in Him. Now listen to Jesus’ words here….. John 12:23-24 “And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.” What a marvelous work God the Father has performed in the death and resurrection of His only begotten Son Jesus Christ. In that we by abiding in Him can also bring forth fruit to the glory of both the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. Be fruitful and multiply! Peace and God bless, Mark.
  12. This is also what Jesus meant when He said we shall all be One, He in us, we in Him, even as He and the Father are One by the same Spirit. When a person is truly born again of the Spirit they then have that One seed dwelling in them, which is the Living Word of God in them, or Christ dwelling in them. (God with us, or in us) Proof of the word of God being that one holy seed in us is also shown in the parable of the seed being sown in the world. The seed is the word of God as shown here in Luke 8:11 “Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.” But now also notice the children of the kingdom are also shown as the good seed in Matthew 13:38 “The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;” So though there is only One Holy seed, which is the Living Word of God, this One Holy seed dwells in all the children of the Kingdom of God. And those who are born of God also have Christ dwelling in them, the seed of promise, which is the incorruptible seed as shown in 1 Peter 1:23 “Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.” Notice Peter mentioned we are born again by the word of God which lives= the Living Word of God. God gave the power of Life to His Word in the very beginning, as His Word is shown as the firstborn of all creation. So we know the Son was around with the Father before the world was, because it is written God created all things by His Son, which is His Word. Now concerning Abraham and Isaac notice what Jesus said to the Sadducees in Matthew chapter 22 concerning the resurrection, which they didn’t believe in any way. Jesus reminded them of the words of God concerning their question about the resurrection of the dead when He said “I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” Paul also confirms who are of the seed in Romans 9:8 “That is,They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.” Once again this explains why Isaac was considered the “only begotten” of Abraham and not his firstborn son Ishmael; as the promise of the Spirit of Life was to Abraham and to his seed according to the promise. Abraham being the father of the faith was also circumcised in the heart by the Holy Spirit, which also speaks of Christ in them by way of the Spirit. (Spirit of promise=promise of the Father) So that is why I believe Isaac is also shown as the only begotten son of Abraham, being that they all lived by that same spiritual seed of promise which dwelled in them, which is the Spirit of Christ that dwelled in them. But even still many have trouble thinking of the Son of God as being the only begotten Son of God before Jesus died and was resurrected. But when you understand what the Lord is showing in the likeness of giving birth to (or being begotten of) and giving the power of Life to His Word, then perhaps you will also better understand how God’s only begotten Son came forth from the Father in heaven, and was given the power to save and resurrect Life through Him; as Jesus Christ said “I am the resurrection and the Life.” Also by the words of God spoken, and then written down later, this is how we get to know the Father and get to know what He is like. We see God’s nature in and through the image of Jesus Christ. Just as Jesus Christ being the very Word of God is also the express image of the invisible God. Jesus said if you have seen me, then you have also seen the Father; so by God’s Word we know what God is like, as we see the Light of His glory in the face of Jesus Christ. I believe the word begotten is also used concerning the Word because God likens spiritual things to natural things, as in this case like natural child birth. I believe the word begotten simply suggests the coming forth from the Father as Jesus said he did, much like a son being born into the world, or made alive. This does not mean the Son of God being the very Word of God had a certain beginning of days, but it just shows the origin from whence the Word of God came; which in fact came out from God the Father in heaven, and also returned to the Father in heaven. And that is what I believe the Father is saying of His Son in Psalm 2:7 concerning his resurrection from the dead and being begotten again concerning “this day.” Also compare and notice the word again used in Acts 13:33 in connection with Psalm 2:7….. Acts 13:33 “God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.” So when the Spirit of Life entered back into the body of Jesus again and he was raised up again, or made alive again; this is what I believe God meant by His Son being begotten on that certain day in Psalm 2:7. Another important thing to notice in the resurrection of Jesus Christ is the giving again of Life and the power of Eternal Life to the Son by the Father; and this life is given also to whom the Father has given to the Son. This sign of the first begotten given Life to me also holds a shadow of the relationship with God and His Son in the beginning of all creation. Even as Jesus being raised up again was now also like a whole new beginning to a whole new creation yet to be fully realized; but again starting with Christ who is the beginning of all things that are, and were created by God. Which new creation will also be fully realized in the regeneration and resurrection to come, and then being complete with the coming of new heavens and a new earth. In John 1:4 concerning the Son it is written “In him was life; and the life was the light of men.” And also in verse 9 it is written of the Son “That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.” I believe these verses also hold a clue in understanding how the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world when certain death came upon all of mankind by way of sin. Just as Jesus said the Devil was a murderer from the very beginning, even as Cain being of that wicked seed killed his own righteous brother Abel. Also the Son of God is also shown as the first begotten prior to Jesus death as in Hebrews 1:6 “And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.” But God’s Son is also shown as the first born of every creature in Colossians 1:15 “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:” This proves God’s Word, or Son is shown as the first born, or begotten, even before Jesus was resurrected again. Continued on next.....
  13. A couple of years ago I got into a debate on another forum and on another person’s thread over when the only begotten Son of God was first begotten of the Father, before, or after His death and resurrection. This topic became very heated with many, and was not even allowed in the “Orthodox” section of this particular Christian forum because it is a very controversial topic. And I’m not writing this to start an argument by no means, but rather to perhaps edify others on the topic. And also to speak on the reason I believe Jesus Christ is called the “only begotten” Son of God in scripture. I myself have not been taught by any man, and do not hold to the teachings of any certain man-made denominations of Christianity. But I do hold firmly to the written words of God, and try to prove all things out by the scriptures along with the guidance of the Holy Spirit; as I believe we all should do as well. But what I also found out later on after being on other forum sites as well, is this; even the words “only begotten” or “begotten” have been removed, changed, replaced, or even reworded in some Bible translations concerning the title of Jesus Christ being the “only begotten” Son of God. I believe these changes are happening because of carnally minded men’s lack of understanding into discerning the mystery into what the Spirit is truly saying concerning God the Father and His only begotten Son, which is in truth His Living Word. So because of all this confusion I thought I would try to show by some scriptures why God likens, or compares His Word like His “only begotten” Son. And also how the Son of God was the only begotten Son of God even before the resurrection of Jesus. I believe once one understands that God’s only begotten Son is in truth God’s very Word then hopefully things will become clearer for you concerning the meaning of God’s only begotten Son. God said His Christ shall be like His Son, and God would be His Father in 2 Samuel 7:14 and is confirmed in Hebrews 1:5. God’s Word, like a Son, came forth like seed from God the Father; whom God the Father also empowered and anointed to be both Lord and Christ. If you notice above I highlighted the word of in the phrase Son of God, this is because just as God’s words comes forth from God, the words spoken are therefore of God, just as Christ is God’s (1 Corinthians 3:23) This is also why Jesus said the Father was greater than Himself, because the Word came out from God the Father in heaven; as this also shows the point of origin of the Word of God. Now let’s look at the word begotten, or only begotten as used in some scriptures. Many go to Psalm 2:7 and Acts 13:33 as proof of when Jesus Christ was first begotten of the Father, but those verses speak of the Son of God as being the first begotten from the dead; which we will see a bit later. Also some use Romans 1:4 to try to prove when the Son of God was first begotten. But I believe that verse is just another proof of the fulfillment of Psalm 2:7, and is used as a declaration that proved whom Jesus Christ was by the power given Him of the Father, and of the resurrection from the dead. Let’s look at the Bible usage of the Hebrew word yâlad in Psalm 2:7 which is translated as begotten in the KJV….יָלַד yâlad, yaw-lad'; a primitive root; to bear young; causatively, to beget; medically, to act as midwife; specifically, to show lineage:—bear, beget, birth(-day), born, (make to) bring forth (children, young), bring up, calve, child, come, be delivered (of a child), time of delivery, gender, hatch, labour, (do the office of a) midwife, declare pedigrees, be the son of, (woman in, woman that) travail(-eth, -ing woman). The KJV translates Strongs H3205 in the following manner: beget (201x), bare (110x), born (79x), bring forth (25x), bear (23x),……. Also the KJV translates the word gennaō Strongs G1080 in Acts 13:33 also in the following manner: begat (49x), be born (39x), bear (2x), gender (2x), bring forth (1x), be delivered (1x), misc (3x). So both the Hebrew and Greek show pretty much the same usage in scripture as Bible usage shows…..to bear, bring forth, beget, gender, travail….(Niphal) to be born…. Bible usage also shows the Greek word “monogenes” as in John 1:14 in the The KJV that translates Strongs G3439 in the following manner: only begotten (6x), only (2x), only child (1x). Bible usage being defined as….single of its kind, only….used of only sons or daughters (viewed in relation to their parents)….. used of Christ, denotes the only begotten Son of God.” So why all the stir and hub bub about calling Jesus Christ the “only begotten” Son of God when both the Hebrew and Greek translations seem to be saying the same? Well I personally believe it is because people do not fully understand that the words of God are often spoken in a mystery, as many also cannot truly hear what it is the Spirit is saying concerning how God likened His Word to His Son. And how like a son comes forth from a father, so too did God’s Word come forth from His own bosom and was made flesh in the man Jesus, as is also written. Also many think since the word “begotten” is used it somehow suggests that God had a beginning of days, and or that His Son was created later on; or perhaps the term “begotten” somehow takes away from the divinity of Christ. But that is not what the Spirit is saying concerning God’s Word being the “only begotten” Son of God. I would also like to add that Abraham's son Isaac in Hebrews 11:17 is also referred to in scripture as his “only begotten” son. But we also know by scripture that Abraham, like God the Father, had many other sons. I also will try to explain why I believe Isaac is referred to in this manner, as I believe there is a connection to Christ in all this as well. So again, when you understand God’s Son is His Word, then the only begotten of the Father might begin to make a little more sense to you. The word only in only begotten Son suggest just one, and God’s seed is One, which seed is also the Fathers Living Word, or Christ. This one seed is shown here in Galatians 3:16 “Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” This is also why I believe Christ is called the only begotten Son of God, because God’s One seed is Christ, which seed is also God’s Word of Life that was with Him from the very beginning, and that was later made flesh in the man Jesus. This also makes the connection to Abraham and to his seed by the promise, and to his “only begotten” son Isaac (a similitude of the offering to come in Jesus Christ). Who also had that same One seed of promise dwelling in them both, or the Spirit of Christ in them. Continued on next....
  14. Jesus said in John 6:33 "For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world." So who is he? Jesus said in John 6:48 "I am that bread of life." As he also confirmed here in John 6:35 "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst." So what is this bread of life? Jesus said in John 6:53-57 "Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me." Ah, so His flesh is that bread of life. But what is his flesh, and what is that bread of life? The answer is found in He whom was made flesh. It is written in John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." So if God's Word was made flesh in Jesus, then what do we eat if we eat Jesus' flesh as he said above? That's right, we eat the bread of Life, which is also the Word of Life. So who did the apostles see, and who did the apostles touch, and who did the apostles hear? We are also given that as well in 1 John 1:1 "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;" Yes, this is that bread of God that if a man eat he shall never hunger nor thirst again, this Manna that God shall give a man shall lead to eternal life. So why do men labor so hard for that which is not meat, and for that which shall never satisfy their hunger? Labor rather for the True bread that leads to eternal life. John 6:27 "Labor not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed." Peace and God bless, Mark
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