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  1. Evolution is a theory of man, not written in God's Word. It has nothing to do with OEC. Thinking evolution is linked with OEC is error also.
  2. I've been castigated by the admin to tone my remarks down about others here heeding men's traditions, not agreeing with written Scripture, etc. So I must assume ALL ideas here are to be treated as equal. So if I've hurt anyone's feelings for saying you're not following Scripture, etc., I apologize.
  3. The fact that a Protestant Reformation happened at all should have been enough to show you that the pope then and now, still is not the Antichrist to come. And even the 1st century Church fathers understood that the coming Antichrist would involve false worship at Jerusalem, not Rome. Moreover, the U.S. Constitution has no clause separating Church and state. That there is such a clause is a Leftist myth. What the U.S. Constitution says about religion is this: "Article (Amendment 1 - Freedom of expression and religion) 13 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Congress is to make no law that establishes religion, nor that prohibits the free exercise of religion. That is not a separation of Church and state clause, that is a protection of religion clause. Many of the early leaders that served in Washington were Christian pastors, and there still hangs today in the U.S. Capitol building oil paintings of Church services held at the Capitol in its early history. Church in the U.S. Capitol - WallBuilders WALLBUILDERS.COM Many people are surprised to learn that the United States Capitol regularly served as a church building; a practice that began even...
  4. And did a pseudochristos appear in any... of those places with spiritually desolating a Jewish temple with an abomination idol like Jesus forewarned in Matthew 24 about the "abomination of desolation"? No, that event we are still looking for, in Jerusalem, not the Americas, nor Europe. (The Greek word pseudochristos in Matt.24:24 is translated as "false Christs" in the KJV. It is made up of two Greek words, pseudo which means false or spurious, and christos which means Christ. The tense of the Matthew 24:23-26 is actually about a singular false-Christ. Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance defined the word as 'a spurious Messiah'. Thus our Lord Jesus specifically warned us about the coming of a false Messiah working great signs and wonders that if possible, would deceive even His very elect. And He pointed that event to occur in Jerusalem with a standing Jewish temple, not anywhere else.) Thus it's important to actually first understand the prophetic parameters given in God's written Word, or wild goose chases can be the result.
  5. The future "thousand years" of Rev.20 will be a future literal period on earth, that's very true. And it is when Jesus will reign over the nations putting all enemies under His feet, for ALL must bow to Him as The Christ... Rom 14:10-12 10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. KJV That is why Jesus showed in Rev.2 & 3 that those of the "synagogue of Satan" will bow at the feet of His elect, and that means His worst enemies on this earth. They have yet to do that bowing. So how will they do that bowing to Christ if they are destroyed at our Lord Jesus' second coming ?
  6. I believe you are confused... ... because I have been proclaiming that the Ezekiel 47 River and trees is about the Rev.22 events. But in your post, you falsely accuse me of denying it!!! Your kind of reactions is what often happens to someone who no longer has a stance in a debate because of running out of supposed support for a doctrine.
  7. Why did you stop... at Zechariah 14:12??? Those who have studied all of Zechariah 14 know why you didn't continue. It's because of how it shows the rebellious of the nations still existing after... Christ's return in His Kingdom... Zech 14:16-19 16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. KJV What? "that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem"?? Which ones are those? Those are the leftovers of the nations that will come up against Jerusalem on the LAST DAY of this present world. That day is still future to us. How is it those will survive God's destruction on that day, and appear there when Christ's literal Kingdom over all nations manifests there? The answer of course is because of what I have already shown from God's Word in my previous posts about our Lord Jesus' future "thousand years" reign with His elect of Revelation 20. That is the timing of this event here with these leftovers and nations which some of them will refuse to come up to Jerusalem to worship The King, The LORD of hosts, and there will be no rain on their lands. It is even showing nations like Egypt still existing then (end of Isaiah 19 even shows that Israel, Assyria, and Egypt will each be one third in God's future Kingdom on earth). So I have shown enough already that the doctrine you're holding to does not agree with God's Holy Writ.
  8. You are treating the "first resurrection" as if it has happened already, and that was one of the ideas that Apostle Paul rebuked... 2 Tim 2:17-18 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. KJV That "first resurrection" is... the resurrection on the last day of this world when Jesus returns. It has not happened yet. No rewards have been handed out in Heaven to the "asleep" saints who have already died in Christ. They are still waiting. If you're interpreting Rev.4 & 5 about the 24 elders as being now, you are listening to Dispensationalism, because they believe they have those crowns already, when in reality those views are a future-forward look for after Jesus' return.
  9. I disagree, and so does God's Word. You cannot omit the future "thousand years" reign of our Lord Jesus and His elect servants that will only begin... at His return. If the doctrine of no millennial reign were true, then the events Jesus gave us in His Revelation 20 chapter would not be written. So to disregard that as written is instead to turn to doctrines of men.
  10. Many of you guys just are not paying attention to the Scripture. You appear too quick to jump the gun onto pop doctrines. Note these parameters we're given in Rev.17 about the symbolic woman harlot. Rev 17:1-2 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. KJV The "great whore" sits upon "many waters". We're told what those waters represent further in the chapter... Rev 17:15 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. KJV Put the previous info together now. The great whore sits over nations, peoples, etc. It means she is reigning in a kingdom over the nations on earth. It's pointing to a world kingdom. Rev 17:18 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. KJV The great whore is a specific "great city". That's not Rome, nor New York, nor Brussels, etc., because none of those cities involve a monarch over a kingdom. It's not Jerusalem just yet either, because today it has no king nor kingdom. But God's Word reveals Jerusalem will have a false king for the end, which is specifically what the subject is about with the 7th king that is still to come in Rev.17:10-13.
  11. I know many still today believe what the old Reformers did in their day that the pope was the Antichrist, but I don't see that, and I say that while my Huguenot ancestors fled to America from France because of persecution by the Catholic Church. The last verse of Rev.17 says the symbolic "woman" of that chapter is a city, not a religion, even though it involves false religion. The "great city" phrase is pointed directly to Jerusalem twice out of ten times that phrase is mentioned. The blood of the prophets happened there per Rev.18, and that's about the prophets Jesus referred to that were killed at Jerusalem, not Rome. God's "two witnesses" will show up at Jerusalem to prophesy against the beast, not Rome. A false Messiah that the orthodox Jews will believe is the true Messiah is coming to Jerusalem for the end to place the "abomination of desolation", not in Rome. So there's several prophetic parameters for the end that point to Jerusalem in a fallen worship state, so that's where the woman will sit over all the other mountains put for kingdoms. You might try reading Ezekiel 16 where God married Jerusalem, and then showed how she became a harlot. The harlot city of Rev.17 is pointing directly to Jerusalem for the end using God's Word to interpret God's Word.
  12. That underlined part is called an affirmation. It's not proof of anything. It's very much like a fairly tale wish. It's something one may wish to be true, but it is not necessarily true. We know that isn't true, and it's easy to know. The River of waters flowing out of the sanctuary of Ezekiel 47 did not happen with the 2nd temple built by the Jews after their 70 years Babylon captivity. The Jews even were sad because of how the 2nd temple building didn't match anywhere close to the glory of Solomon's temple! That's not even getting into the much, much larger temple layout given in Ezekiel either. So absolutely not. The 2nd temple in Jerusalem did not fit the Ezekiel 40-48 layout. Any future temple built by the orthodox Jews prior to Jesus' 2nd coming won't fit either. Rest of your post is just a joke and not worth responding to. Well, now you're trying to preach to me when I don't require your preaching; I already know my standing with our Lord Jesus Christ.
  13. All evil ending won't happen until the devil himself and the wicked, and even death, go into the future lake of fire at God's GWT Judgement. So you trying to CREATE a technicality outside His Word that He must accomplish is to loose your point. When Rev.20:3 says Satan is bound for a thousand years and not able to deceive the nations during that period, that means he is not able to work evil, regardless of how you may want to spin against that. You are wrong. Terribly wrong. Rev 20:2-5 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. KJV That "mark" and "image" of the beast is for a working at the very end of this world just prior to Christ's return. It is what Jesus called a time of "great tribulation" in Matthew 24 and Mark 13. In Rev.13 we are shown a false one coming to work great signs and wonders and establishing that image and mark. That event has NEVER happened yet to this day. That is why Jesus and Dan.12:1 remarked how it will be a day that has never been the likes, nor will there ever be again. And the dead giveaway of how you are so wrong from that above Rev.20 Scripture? "This is the first resurrection". That single phrase is being linked to those events in this order: a. Satan locked in the pit b. those who refused the mark and/or image at the end live with Jesus and reign with Him for a thousand years c. those are the "first resurrection" That means... AFTER Christ's return is when that "first resurrection" manifests!!! Not before like you're trying to push a doctrine of men into the Scripture where it does not exist.
  14. Be careful. You are fabricating a falsehood with that. I showed that Ezek.47:12 verse links to the same subject written in Rev.22 about that tree and "the leaf thereof for medicine". You'll have a difficult time disproving it. So best not get cocky as if you've already caught me doing something you've yet to prove. Really? Rev 21:22 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. KJV When the new heavens and a new earth timing begins, there will no longer be a temple. Thus the Ezekiel 47 sanctuary will no longer exist when the new heavens and a new earth begins. That means of course, the Ezekiel temple must... exist prior to that. And I can guarantee, any temple the orthodox Jews build today will not match the one in Ezekiel, especially with God's River and the Tree of Life like its says in Ezek.47. The rest of your post doesn't even fit what I explained in my previous post.
  15. Yes. But there is another... consuming fire event written for after the "thousand years" of Rev.20. It is only when Satan is loosed one final time to go tempt the nations, and they go up against the "camp of the saints" one earth. Then God rains a consuming fire upon them, as written. So there's different judgments at different times, but only one GWT Judgment, and it doesn't occur until a thousand years after... Christ's 2nd coming, as shown there in Rev.20. But there are wicked that will still be alive on earth when our Lord Jesus comes. Our Lord Jesus showed us in John 5:28-29 they will be changed to the "resurrection of damnation" also on the day of His second coming. Apostle Paul also stated that it was his desire that there would be both a resurrection for the just, and for the unjust (Acts 24:15). Paul would not have desired that for the wicked unless he knew some of them could be saved during Christ's thousand years reign. So that's yet another one of the reasons I see great error in amillennial's omission of that thousand years reign by Christ and His elect after His return. Well, Rev.20 states there will be a thousand years reign by our Lord Jesus and His elect. And it's not difficult to understand the parameters given there that it is for after His future return. As for Matthew 25, you won't disprove the Rev.20 thousand years there either. Just because our Lord Jesus didn't mention the thousand years there does not mean it won't happen like Rev.20 reveals. After all, His Revelation is about 'the revealing', which is the meaning of the title of the Book. There's more than the thousand years event in Rev.20 that He revealed that's not written in The Gospel Books. So the proof by omission idea does not work. Moreover, the Matt.25:30 verse speaks of the unprofitable servant being cast to the "outer darkness"? It appears you don't really know what that "outer darkness" is, nor when it is. Matt 8:11-12 11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. KJV The timing of the "outer darkness" is at... Jesus' 2nd coming. It's when He establishes His Kingdom with His elect. Matt 22:9-14 9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few are chosen. KJV That example above shows His Kingdom already in effect after His return, the marriage supper getting ready to take place once everyone is gathered to Him. The one without the wedding garment is cast to that "outer darkness". But what is it still? It is this... Rev 22:14-15 14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. KJV After Christ's return, outside... the holy city on earth, will be those "dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." That is the "resurrection of damnation", the truly 'dead', because their souls will still be in liable to die condition subject to the "second death". Therefore, the wicked still alive on earth at Christ's coming are changed to the resurrection of damnation too, and will be under the "second death" all throughout Christ's thousand years reign. THAT... is who those "nations" are of Rev.20 after Jesus returns; they are all subject to the "second death" in that time. Those are the ones at the end of Zechariah 14 which refuse to come up to Jerusalem from years to year, to worship The King, The LORD of Hosts, and keep the feast of tabernacles. And that is for AFTER Christ's return there.
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