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John Calvin puts forward a very simple reason why love is the greatest gift: “Because faith and hope are our own: love is diffused among others.” In other words, faith and hope benefit the possessor, but love always benefits another. In John 13:34–35 Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Love always requires an “other” as an object; love cannot remain within itself, and that is part of what makes love the greatest gift.

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    Even if it was "over 1 trillion 'Catholics'" we know (or at least we should know) that truth is not determined by majority vote when Scripture is being defamed. If truth was/is determined by majority vote then the truth of Christ (His life, teachings and resurrection) would be false (cf. Matthew 7:13-14).
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    The migration from Saturday corporate worship to Sunday corporate worship is an interesting story that has nothing to do with any sinister plot or pagan worship. In the earliest church, Jewish and Gentile Christians worshipped together. Jewish Christians attended the Saturday service alongside non-Christian Jews at the synagogues and they met together with gentile Christians to honor the Day of the Lord on Sunday. Gentiles refrained from meeting with non-Christian Jews on Saturday to avoid offending the more numerous and powerful Jews by Gentile presence in their service. When relations between Jews and Christians deteriorated after the fall of the Temple, Jewish Christians were banned from the Saturday Jewish service. The simple, obvious, and logical solution was for Jewish Christians banned from Saturday service to simply join the Gentile Christians already meeting on the Lord’s Day (Sunday) as the day of weekly corporate worship. See, nothing sinister ... just people being people and God being God.
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    You realize that wasn't always so? That began with the Protestant Reformation. Did they? The catholic church consisted of members that were consistent with Apostolic doctrine. When the catholic church veered off course one group went apostate and the others remained and tried to realign the catholic church back to orthodoxy (Protestants). What I'm saying is that Protestants are catholic and Catholics are apostate. If you however mean that the catholic church is the buildings and fanciful artwork which led to the church's debt and the selling of indulgences rather than the Apostolic doctrine we believe and teach I understand by which you convey is the catholic church: "Pelagianism was condemned. Six years after the council of Carthage a general council of African Churches reaffirmed the anathemas of 412 AD. Zosimus sided with Pelagius in 412, he wrote a letter condemning the anathema of Carthage. Of course having the support of Scripture, the leaders of the Carthagian Council disregarded the Bishop and his letter. Philip Schaff noted church historian observes, "This temporary favor of the bishop of Rome towards the Pelagian heresy is a significant presage of the indulgence of later popes for pelagianizing tendencies". It was these later "pelagianizing tendencies" that lead to the works-righteousness advocated by the bishop of Rome that later led to the Roman Catholic belief system. This was a pivotal moment in church history. Cornelius Otto Jansen like Martin Luther believed the early Church of Rome departed from its position that all of life was by the grace of God. And like Augustine Jansen taught that man's spirit was dead in sin, and therefore needed to be regenerated. Jansen understood that this was something that happened to man by God's grace and not something man made happen by his faith. In 1713 Pope Clement the XI issued a Papal Bull denouncing over 100 statements, many of which were actual quotes of Augustine. A Church that once sided with Augustine now sided with Pelagius." God bless, William
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    Asking for opinions here. As a kid i could tell a Pentecostal church lady by her manor of dress; She would be about 10 years behind the styles of the day. NO make-up. Hair pulled back into a an untidy bun at the back of her neck. Heavy dark stockings... Those things did not ' make ' her a Christian. What make one a Christian? Not asking about being Saved by Grace that is a forgone conclusion . The words we use or dont use? what we do or dont do? I was about 40 became friends with a wonderful Christian woman.. At age 40 i was asking myself how can she be Christian when she smokes. Yet i knew/know a lot of fat Christians . What 'makes' us Christians? Are we to follow a set of rules? If so who's rules? God does not put us in a box of regulations .. He said this: Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Here He hammers His point home: Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Joh 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Joh 15:17 These things I command you, that ye love one another. What is it that gives us the right to claim He is our Father to take His name.
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    Those who pray to her are worshiping her. https://www.christforums.com/forums/topic/7524-praying-to-mary-is-an-attack-on-the-trinity/#comments In terms of judging, see also John 7:24.
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    Many views can be shared about what makes one a christian. After having gone through studies in the sermon on the mount by Dr Martyn Lloyd Jones, these principles as recorded in matthew chapters 5-7 are central to christian living.
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    Well, thus far we have two people on this board that appeal to SDA. I question whether appealing to deliberate ignorance and not being a theologian is symptomatic of those that reject the Trinity, follow a false prophetess, and most align with a Cult? What does Scripture say? You shouldn't be satisfied with any answer whether right or wrong unless you can perceive it from Scripture alone yourself. If you can't see it yourself then there are possible reasons for such: 1) deliberate appeal to ignorance 2) not a theologian 3) doesn't exists Are you aware of the 5 Solas the Theology of the Protestant faith? Just because the Catholic church believes something doesn't mean it's wrong. We appeal to Scripture as the ultimate authority to settle these matters of dispute. However, Protestants follow Sunday worship for quite different reasons than Catholics. The Catholic church may reject Scripture alone and think like the Pentecostals that the office of Apostle (Charismatic person) is still open from which they have the authority to establish Tradition but the only tradition Protestants follow are stated in Scripture alone. Pentecostals use cliches like don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Pentecostals threw out Sola Scriptura long ago. God bless, William
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    Right now the only thing that comes to my mind is, when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness, fasting. Satan new that this was not any ordinary Man. Satan also quoted old testament bible to Jesus. So I believe he knew that Jesus was the messiah to come, but had no power over Him. So he left him for a Season.
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    All The Other States Beg California To Add Them To Travel Ban BABYLONBEE.COM U.S.—After California added Iowa to its growing list of states to which the government will not fund trips, all the other states began clamoring to get...
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    I hope Kansas gets added to the list. We have enough problems already. We don't need Californians coming and bringing their problems.
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    Welcome to the forum. I agree with the teachings of independent Baptist churches but for a long time I was a member of a Bible church, which was a Baptist church in everything except name. I choose a church on the basis of what it teaches rather than on whether it bears the name Baptist. Now I attend an Assembly of God because I don't have a car and there are no Baptist churches within walking distance of where I live. I'm 78 years old so for me walking distance is a lot less than it was when I was younger.
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    Hello @E Morales!!! Welcome to CF and thank you posting an introduction and your statement of faith! God bless, William
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    Love takes whatever action is necessary to protect those it loves. When Jesus spoke of Hell he called it Gehenna. Gehenna was also a valley near Jerusalem where all the garbage from the city was taken and burned. Garbage needed to be removed from the city to protect the health of its inhabitants. This illustrates the purpose of the Gehenna we know as Hell. After God's creation was infected by sin a place was needed to remove it to in order to preserve creation. That was why God created Hell.
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    I have for a number of years now. A while back my wife bought be a starter kit from Northern Brewer. It comes with a fermenter, two brew kits, some bottle caps, a cap press, and some fizz tabs. The instructions actually say, "If you can make mac-n-cheese you can brew beer." It is not all that complicated, but it is always to gets some tips here and there so you don't make some rookie mistakes. I would start with 1 gallon batches then graduate once your confidence grows.
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    Don't know what made it worst a) the poor acting b) the accurate portrayal of rapture theology?
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    Because we know that "over 1 billion 'Catholics'" dictate [the standard) what is orthodox!
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    ... but do not get too cocky. In the words of Bill Clinton’s Campaign Manager: “It’s the economy, stupid.” We are in the longest Bull (growth) Market in history, and when it goes into a cyclic correction (as it eventually must), the Trump critics will circle like sharks to lay the blame and “economic failure” at the feet of the President. So when will that economic turning point be relative to Election Day?
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    What was the appeal? Is it just worship and because we feel so good we will accept anything you tell us? Do these fellowship read scripture or know the Lord? I saw Todd Bentley and was surprised at his approach and lack of scripture or anything that was really christian. Pump up the congregation and then have a wow session with angels and wonders......
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    It breaks my heart to see what's happening to the people of Burundi, we all need to come together and support these people regardless of race, religion or nationality. Hebrews 13:16 (ESV) “Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.” Help Save Starving Children In Burundi FUNDRAZR.COM I recently traveled to a country in Africa called Burundi, however, to see what is happening to the people of Burundi is horrific and breaks my heart to see... Please let's help spread and share this link and donate at least $5 or more to feed a starving family in Burundi. Every dollar counts
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    I've been reading through studies in the sermon on the mount by Dr Martyn Lloyd Jones since the end of July. Powerful reminder from matthew chapters 5-7 of how a christian ought to live, quite challenging yet necessary.
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    Hi Tony. Thanks for these positive words. Much needed in my life at the moment
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    IMO there is nothing whatsoever to be pleased about Hinn's hucksterism. Hinn's lifestyle is completely contrary to what Jesus taught His genuine Followers would be like. Hinn's love of excess in vehicles, houses, clothing, all point to his love for things rather than loving God and people. Biblical ignorance of those seeking psychical healings, as well those seeking quick fixes for financial hardships are the people Hinn seeks, Like an eagle swooping from the sky with talons full extended looking for some food, Hinn has eyes on the lookout for the lost sheep whose discouraged fearful soul is at wits end, with fear of physical pain and death or financial devastation. Hinn is unethical, miniplates the words of Scripture for financial gain. One has to wonder why any Bible believing Follower could see any redeeming value in Hinn's so called ministry.
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    He and the ones like him are perfect examples of the Total Depravity that Calvin and the rest of the reformers brought to light . Not that anyone of a lower degree shall escape the Judgment. Amazing that people like him never speak of salvation and or any form of justification for that matter . Him and the other "men of god" are enjoying basking in the sun for now . But it will be a far different story when they stand before The Judge Of All The Earth. M
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    I agree that we don’t need “Christian Thugs” beating the crap out of anyone they meet (especially other Christians). We just need to make sure that we do not embrace the cultural solution of turning “little boys” into “little girls” by making effeminate scholars the measure of Christian Maturity. We ARE called to be warriors after all.
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    sheesh Rev_4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
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    The sons of God are physical male and female offspring of Adam. Daughters of men is the earthly wisdom that men have accepted or integrated into their lives that produced "giants" or the larger than life men and women that we still adore and put on a pedestal today.
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    Becoming a Christian does not automatically make us evangelists, nor does it mean that we have a duty to engage in evangelism. However, all believers are called to be prepared to give a defense of their faith: ‘But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear’ (1 Pet. 3:15). The word here translated ‘reason’ is apologian, and it means a verbal defense or a speech in defense. We are all thus required by scripture to be ready to give a reasonable argument in defence of our faith. From the Greek word apologia we get the English word apology, and also the word apologetics. Apologetics is the task of explaining and defending the faith, and it is a very important part of our Christian witness, for we are all required to be ready to do this to some degree. This is a significant requirement of scripture, since if we are to give a reasonable defense of our faith we must first understand the faith. We must therefore begin growing in our knowledge and understanding of the word of God from the moment we become Christians if we are to be in a position to give an adequate defense of our faith to those who ask it of us. There is this wrong idea of Christianity as a heart religion as opposed to a head religion. It is considered ‘fleshly’ to engage in an argument about the faith because this involves the intellect and the intellect is deemed to be in opposition to the ‘spirit.’ This kind of thinking is really an extreme form of pietism. It is a wrong understanding of what spirituality is. To be spiritual in the biblical sense involves most definitely the intellect. Our minds must be subject to Christ and engaged for his service. Indeed this is an aspect of the first commandment. We are to serve the Lord our God with all our heart and with all our soul and with all our mind (Mat. 22:37), in other words in the totality of our beings. Those who discourage Christians from engaging in apologetics because they believe such reasoning to be of the flesh do not believe that the gospel is intellectually defensible. But of course it is. Furthermore, Christians need to understand that Christianity is the only intellectually defensible position there is, that there is only Christian truth, and that all that does not conform to that truth is in error. excerpts https://graceonlinelibrary.org/salvation/evangelism/evangelism-and-apologetics-by-stephen-c-perks/ In Christ
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    Hello everyone! I really want to start a new chapter in my life and faith. My walk with the Lord has gotten complicated over the past few years. I really want to find a way to settle down and start fresh. I like to ask for some suggestions on how to grow up spiritually from a protestant/reformed point of view. This will be more of a self study for the time being since at this moment my wife and I don't have a church yet. Any suggestions on what materials I should start with would be great. I will be honest I been very intimidated to post anything because many here seem very academic. I am technical minded and part empath, so please bare with me. My background I started by reading the bible from the beginning to end using NLT in the very beginning. I started out with the mind set of non-denominational. Later I became part of my wife's Pentecostal church, we learned how to pray for others and minister there. While our church was falling apart. I had a run in with heretical teaches by Dr. Myles Monroe and the Lord used Dr. RC Sproul to snap me out of it. My wife and I love Dr. RC Sproul(we are so sad for his passing 😞 ) and the teachings from Ligonier, but we are kinda a mess. We are having a hard time connecting with the local communities. I been running off the head knowledge of what I read in the scriptures and the teachings of Ligonier, but I haven't really put it all together. So I want to humble myself and ask you all for any suggestions on how to start new. I really appreciate any suggestions and your time reading this.
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    There are all kinds of matters surrounding the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil. For example, what appealed to Eve? What was Eve sold on by the serpent? What was it about wisdom that Eve desired? Why did she desire to lead man or Adam and was it any coincidence that God should stress her contention and yet she shall be subject to her husband's headship? I think the most interesting thing about the Tree is that the tree hosted the serpent and ultimately be used to sell the serpents doctrine. The serpent beared no fruit of himself but rather sold the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Here is what is most peculiar to me about the serpent's lies as I do believe most of Christendom today conveys and teaches this very same lie. Genesis 3:5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” Note the lies of the serpent, she would be like gods, and thus independent able to rule over herself apart from God, and there is not one God, but many gods; each is sovereign over himself or herself. This is the only place where autonomous will or what is known as "free will" is taught in Scripture. Man in himself having an autonomous nature. Whenever I hear someone teaching the doctrine of free will (autonomous or libertarian) I am reminded of the source of the Devil's doctrine. Isaiah 14:11-15 “Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.” The very same inequity found in Lucifer was used by him through the serpent to outwardly tempt an "unrighteous" creature. And to clarify, I mean Adam had not a divine or righteous nature but rather he was blameless up until this point. If Adam was righteous He would not of been mislead by Eve and Adam would of crushed the head of the serpent right then and there and to its effect none of us would be in this mess. Whenever I hear this I ask what about those outside Noah's ark? Once the door closed what other door had God opened for them? God bless, William
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    Wow, thank you brother. That's exactly what I needed to be reminded of. It is Christ who is my strength not myself which is self destructive. My parents passed on some not so good behaviors as well, not to bad mouth them or blame them for my own sin, but it wasn't a peaceful household.
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    Do you please God? You should want to, and if you are not pleasing Him, why not? This is something many of us go through life never thinking about, but in reality, it's why we are here. Read this scripture from the book of Revelation: Thou art worthy, O LORD, to receive glory, and honor and power: for Thou has created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are and .were created. Revelation 4:11 Don't try to get out of it, He created us for His pleasure, and I'm willing to bet there are a whole bunch of us who are not very pleasing to Him. My advise? Change that. Sure, there are a number of reasons we are going through this flesh life, for instance, we are here to be tested. "This is a test . . . this is only a test." That said, do you think it would be easier to pass our tests if our Heavenly Father is pleased with us? Just saying, this is something to think about.
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    Lady Gaga, Modana, etc. can not hold a candle to Connie Francis . Cher can sing but she became a naked pig, Connie kept her clothes on. Buddy Holly, Elvis, Ray Charles , . for spice Little Richard
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    There is good reason why you feel that way. I care very much about false doctrine just as the Biblical authors did. You on the other hand not so much. Like I said, it seems you prefer to dance around the topic instead of just coming straight out and saying you don't believe in the trinity. That is a contradiction. If Trinitarianism is true, then it necessarily follows all other views are false. You stated "the Godhead is not made up of persons." That view is either true or false. If it is true then it necessarily follows that Trinitarianism is false. There is a difference in knowing something true about a subject, object, or person and knowing something (or in this case someone) exhaustively. One does not cancel out the other. Knowing God is a trinity in no way implies having exhaustive knowledge about Him. Well, well, well, now I am impressed. You don't need evidence for your claims\views. That really is an informed, cogent, reasonable, and logical way of thinking. That says a great about your system of thought and methods for understanding both the text and theology. Since you require no evidence for your views, you may believe whatever you like even if the text does not support it.
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    You must mean "From the days when singers really knew how to sing " .Because now they can't carry a tune if they put it in a nap sack ! M
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    If I may, Jesus is "the Son" of God. We are as you say adopted children of God. Consider, 1 John 3:2 Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. But notice the headship or rank of who we are being transformed into the likeness of. I also agree with you on the point that regenerated (born again believers) are adopted into the family of God. But notice again the headship: Romans 8:28-30 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good,[a] for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. While I'm fascinated about the subject of Jesus "begotten~ness" from eternity we are Elected before the world was formed. Ephesians 1:4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love God bless, William
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    If you are living in the UK then the fellowship that you mention is probably TOO BIG for you and that you need to seek another assembly of saints. Music should be in proportion to the area of the building that you worship in, if it's TOO loud then it's not glorifying to God.
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    I'm used to100 -200, After that I've found it's to easy to remain anonymous. I like getting to know my family. Haha, Gotta love Paul, again. He goes through this whole spiel just to say, well we don't, nor do the churches of God have any such practice. 1 Cor, 11:13 Judge for yourselves. Is it proper for a woman to pray to God uncovered? 14 Does even nature itself not teach you that if a man has long hair it is a shame to him? 15 But if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her, for her hair is given her for a covering. 16 But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor have the churches of God. He also asks, "doesn't nature itself teach you, long hair on a man is a shame?" 1 Cor, 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. God is looking for a home in men. Men with a heart for God, literally. Jer, 17:10 I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. I don't think God is concerned with long haired men or bald headed women. But, I've been wrong before... In Christ Just having fun with you Faber. First, judge for yourself Second, Well what is nature telling you Third, We have no such custom. Huh?.
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    What appalls most protestant believers concerning Mary is the Catholic teaching that Mary was [t]he Co-Redeemer with Christ in the Act of Redemption . Basically saying that without Mary the suffering of Christ on the cross was to no avail . Here is what ( some) of the popes say about Mary as a Co-Redeemer with Christ ; Leo XIII ,Jucunda Semper , 1894 ; " When Mary offered herself completely to God together with her Son in the temple ,she was already sharing with Him the painful atonement on behalf of the human race …..( at the foot of the cross ) she willingly offered Him up to the divine justice ,dying with Him in her heart, pierced by the sword of sorrow ." Pius X,Ad Diem Illum ,1904: "Owning to the union of suffering and purpose existing between Christ and Mary , she merited to become most worthy the reparatrix of the lost world, and for this reason ,the dispenser of ALL favors which Jesus acquired for us by HIs death.... Benedict XV, Inter Sodallcia ,1918 " To such extent did Mary suffer and almost die with her suffering and dying Son :to such extent did she surrender her maternal rights over her Son for ;man's salvation..that we may rightly say she redeemed the human race together with Christ ." This is unquestionably the worst form of Blasphemy !! Insisting that Mary was a Co-Redeemer with Christ and that the salvation of mankind was not possible without her ! Please note that the above quotes are just a fraction of the words said by some of the Catholic popes . Space and time will not allow me to fully quote everything said by most popes concerning the " replacement " of Christ on the cross by Mary . M
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    @BCseniorThis is a Protestant website. Your membership has been revoked. @JLB This is a Protestant website. You are not edifiable and frankly you don't address direct posts. Your membership has been revoked. Neither of you are Protestant. Accusing of us of being lacking in some way of the Holy Spirit and insinuating that we promote Satanic doctrine is not tolerated. Take your performance based salvation doctrine elsewhere.
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