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I am glad to see that the percentage of smokers in the US is down.

Percentage of U.S. Smokers Hits All-Time Low - 24/7 Wall St.

 

 In China (where I live/teach) it seems smoking is ubiquitous.

Smoking in China - Wikipedia

 

 I never got into smoking. When I was quite young my father told me that "kissing a smoker is like licking a dirty ashtray." When I first heard that I gagged.

 

 For those who were smokers what technique did you use to quit?

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Faber said:

For those who were smokers what technique did you use to quit?

I was 11 and had a father that smoked at the time.  (He later quit.)  Friend had a pack so we went to a field and smoked half each.  I anticipated getting sick, but didn't.  I was my last cigarette.

Probably not severe enough to necessitate a 12 point program, but that's all I got.

 

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2 hours ago, Faber said:

 For those who were smokers what technique did you use to quit?

 

Cold turkey.....back in those days I am not sure even Nicorette gum existed.....hardest thing I have ever done.  Even 5 years later the idea of have a cigarette appealed to me.

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Weened off of them over a 2 month period with much prayer.  I was quitting for spiritual and health reasons both.  

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I smoked a pipe while in the Navy and for about three years after getting out. Our daughter was born 2 months early and stayed in the ICU for a while. The Doctor said no smoking any where he near her. I quit that very day and never smoked a pipe again. I smoked because I needine something to keep my hands doing something and at the time it looked cool  Noe I said it was so stupid and dangerous.

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I'm still struggling. Using Chantix now. Have gone 3 months with no nicotine only to relapse a week ago. Today I begin another treatment of Chantix. Chantix definitely takes away the actual nicotine withdraw but it's that habitual pattern of behavior when first waking up or after meals that's so difficult to deal with. I wake up and it's like I forget my car keys. I know I forgot something (nicotine) and have that feeling all day long.

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After meals do the dishes :classic_ohmy:

I quit June 1971. Cold turkey.. Asked my brother, What do you want for your birthday? His reply for you to quit smoking. 

A couple weeks later while playing pinochle .. Out of habit i picked John's cigarette out of the ash tray took a drag... coughed and sputtered yuk... that was the last .

 

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It's not easy.  I smoked for 20 years.  Another trick I learned was to eat carrots when a withdraw comes on.  It helps with the psychological withdraw of having a cigarette in your hand after dinner or on the way to work.  Whenever there is a withdraw I would eat carrots for about 3 - 5 minutes until it went away.  It really helped.  

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That is good news. I’ve heard that it’s a really hard habit to break. I’ve never smoked but have two friends who wrestle with trying to quit. 😕

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I picked up smoking with some other destructive habits when I was younger. I stopped the other things, but I'm still a smoker.  I think I'm addicted to caffeine too.

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1 hour ago, Innerfire89 said:

I picked up smoking with some other destructive habits when I was younger. I stopped the other things, but I'm still a smoker.  I think I'm addicted to caffeine too.

Yeah, I understand the addiction.  I picked it up when I was 15 and didn't quit until 35 (I quit for one year in between this time so I really smoked for 19 years).  

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On 3/24/2019 at 5:37 PM, Innerfire89 said:

I picked up smoking with some other destructive habits when I was younger. I stopped the other things, but I'm still a smoker.  I think I'm addicted to caffeine too.

Stopped smoking June 16 1971 ...As for caffeine that is a christian addiction correct? 

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Caffeine has to be the weakest addiction in this world if it is an addiction.  I consumed Army Coffee made in Tin Cans and drank Grounds and all.  The single most difficult addiction for me to quit was the Cigarette.  I stopped snorting, smoking, consuming and injecting everything that was available to me in less than thirty days.  I quit Cigarettes every day for over a year before I became disgusted enough with myself and put them down.

 

I have done without Coffee for weeks and months at a time and yet I get out of bed and go straight for my Coffee Pot and consume 16oz every morning, before breakfast.  Coffee, Caffeine, is a habit, nothing more.

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On ‎7‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 1:49 PM, Faber said:

I am glad to see that the percentage of smokers in the US is down.

Percentage of U.S. Smokers Hits All-Time Low - 24/7 Wall St.

 

 In China (where I live/teach) it seems smoking is ubiquitous.

Smoking in China - Wikipedia

 

 I never got into smoking. When I was quite young my father told me that "kissing a smoker is like licking a dirty ashtray." When I first heard that I gagged.

 

 For those who were smokers what technique did you use to quit?

 

 

It was difficult to not smoke when I was in the military . Mainly because so many people I hung around with smoked. I did quit several times ,but my biggest departure from cigarets was during my tour in Viet Nam. The heat alone was enough to make you quit. I managed to stay off of them when I got back to Camp Pendleton until I "borrowed " one from one of the guys at the mess hall table. That set off the habit again . Finally managed to quit and haven't smoked in many years. I look back now  and wonder why I ever took up that unhealthy habit . And besides ,at $ 7.00 a pack , is it worth it ?

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On ‎7‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 5:09 PM, Becky said:

After meals do the dishes :classic_ohmy:

I quit June 1971. Cold turkey.. Asked my brother, What do you want for your birthday? His reply for you to quit smoking. 

A couple weeks later while playing pinochle .. Out of habit i picked John's cigarette out of the ash tray took a drag... coughed and sputtered yuk... that was the last .

 

The trick I used was to let longer periods of time go by before picking up another one. Longer periods between helped me quit several times. I think the price alone ought to make one  quit . They were three dollars a carton at the PX in Camp Pendleton when I was there . Now I have a friend that pays $7.00 a pack. That's desperate !!!

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On ‎3‎/‎26‎/‎2019 at 8:46 AM, Becky said:

Stopped smoking June 16 1971 ...As for caffeine that is a christian addiction correct? 

 

On ‎7‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 1:50 PM, William said:

I'm still struggling. Using Chantix now. Have gone 3 months with no nicotine only to relapse a week ago. Today I begin another treatment of Chantix. Chantix definitely takes away the actual nicotine withdraw but it's that habitual pattern of behavior when first waking up or after meals that's so difficult to deal with. I wake up and it's like I forget my car keys. I know I forgot something (nicotine) and have that feeling all day long.

That product is advertised on tv as one that helps in kicking the habit. But they give strong warnings about the health risk involved.

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Is this a good law?

 

 

Gov. J.B. Pritzker signed a bill Sunday that will raise the legal age for purchasing cigarettes, e-cigarettes and other tobacco products from 18 to 21 statewide.

 

“For Illinois, it will reduce costs for our state, it will make our schools and communities healthier places to learn and live, and — most importantly — it will save lives,” Pritzker said in a statement.

 

Public health advocates have been trying for years to raise the legal age in Illinois, arguing that people are less likely to become smokers if they haven’t started by the time the turn 21. Lawmakers approved the bill last monthfor the second time in as many years after then-Gov. Bruce Rauner vetoed an earlier version last year.

 

When the law takes effect July 1, Illinois will join seven other states that have raised the smoking age to 21: California, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon and Virginia.

 

 See here for the full article:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-jb-pritzker-illinois-smoking-age-21-story.html

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as if the kids never break the laws .. 

 

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2 hours ago, Faber said:

Is this a good law?

 

 

Gov. J.B. Pritzker signed a bill Sunday that will raise the legal age for purchasing cigarettes, e-cigarettes and other tobacco products from 18 to 21 statewide.

 

“For Illinois, it will reduce costs for our state, it will make our schools and communities healthier places to learn and live, and — most importantly — it will save lives,” Pritzker said in a statement.

 

Public health advocates have been trying for years to raise the legal age in Illinois, arguing that people are less likely to become smokers if they haven’t started by the time the turn 21. Lawmakers approved the bill last monthfor the second time in as many years after then-Gov. Bruce Rauner vetoed an earlier version last year.

 

When the law takes effect July 1, Illinois will join seven other states that have raised the smoking age to 21: California, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon and Virginia.

 

 See here for the full article:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-jb-pritzker-illinois-smoking-age-21-story.html

It might do some good, but kids find they're why around it, sadly parents will actually buy it for them.

When was in school we used to buy stuff from the seniors, if it's harder for 18 year olds to get their hands on cigs and chewing tobbaco then that would cut down on the younger kids getting it.

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