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Evolution: Fact or Fantasy?

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by Phillip E. Johnson

 

Evolution is a fact only at a very small scale. It is fantasy when it is used to explain how plants and animals came into existence or how human beings supposedly evolved from apelike ancestors. We might summarize the fantasy by saying that, where the theory of evolution is true, it is not very interesting, and where it is most interesting, it is not true.

 

If “evolution” merely refers to a process of cyclical (back and forth) variation in response to changing environmental conditions, then evolution is a fact that can be observed both in nature and in laboratory experiments.

 

For example, when a population of insects is sprayed with a deadly chemical like DDT, the most susceptible insects die but the individuals most resistant to the poison survive to breed and leave offspring, which inherit the genes that provide resistance. After many generations of insects have been sprayed, the entire surviving population may be comprised of the DDT-resistant variety, and some new form of insect control will have to be applied. When the environment becomes free of the toxic chemical, the insect population tends to revert to what it was before.

 

A similar effect explains how disease-causing bacteria become resistant to antibiotic drugs like penicillin, when then are no longer as effective in controlling the disease as they formerly were.

 

Almost all illustrations of “evolution in action” in textbooks or museum exhibits are similar to these examples. They involve no increase in complexity or appearance of new body parts or even permanent change of any kind. Small-scale, reversible population variations of this sort are usually called microevolution, although “adaptive variation” would be a better term.

 

It is misleading to describe adaptive variation as “evolution,” because the latter term commonly refers also to macroevolution. Macroevolution is the grand story of how life supposedly evolved by purely natural processes from very simple beginnings to become complex, multicolor plants and animals, and eventually human beings, without God’s participation being needed at any step along the way.

 

Charles Darwin assumed that macroevolution was merely microevolution extended over very long periods of time. Biology textbooks, museums, and television programs still teach people to make the same assumption, so that examples of microevolution are used as proof that complex animals and even human beings evolved from simpler organisms by a similar process.

 

The primary flaw in the story of macroevolution is that all plants and animals are packed with information-- the complicated instructions that coordinate the many processes enabling the body and brain to function. Even Richard Dawkins, the most famous living advocate of Darwin’s theory, admits that every cell in a human body contains more information than all the volumes of an encyclopedia, and every one of us has trillions of cells in his or her body, which have to work together in marvelous harmony.

 

The greatest weakness of the theory of evolution is that science has not discovered a process that can create all the necessary information, which can be likened to the software that directs a computer. Without such a demonstrated creative process, evolution is merely a story, because its supposed mechanisms can neither be duplicated in a laboratory nor observed in nature.

 

It is true that there are patterns of similarity among living creatures. For example, humans, apes, mice, worms, and even plants have many similar genes. The important question is not whether there are similarities among all living things but whether those similarities came about through a natural process akin to the observable examples of adaptive variation that we find in textbooks and museum exhibits.

 

One mistake Christians often make in debating evolution is to take on too many issues at once, rather than starting with the most important problem and solving it first. For example, evolution requires a time scale of many millions of years, while many people understand the Bible to allow for an earth history of only a few thousand years. The evolutionary time scale is debatable, but debating it involves several complex scientific disciplines and distracts attention from the most important defect of the theory of evolution. The only mechanism the evolutionists have is a combination of random variation and natural selection, illustrated by the survival of the insects that happened to be resistant to an insecticide. This Darwinian mechanism has never been shown to be capable of creating new genetic information or new complex body parts such as wings, eyes, or brains. Without a mechanism that can be demonstrated to be capable of the necessary creation, the theory of evolution is just a fantasy with no real scientific basis.

 

The Bible teaches, “In the beginning God created” and “In the beginning was the Word.” A simple way of explaining this basic principle is to say that a divine intelligence existed before anything else and that intelligence was responsible for the origin of life and for the existence of all living things, including human beings. No matter how much time we might allow for evolution to do the necessary creating, the evidence shows that the process would never get started, because all evolution can do is to further minor variations in organisms that are already living, without any change in their basic classification. When the Bible says, “In the beginning God created” (Gn 1:1), it is presenting us with a fact, which we need to know to understand everything else, including what we were created for and how God wants us to live.

 

The Bible also says that God created men and women in His own image. That, too, is a fact. If it were not true, there would be no science, because no theory of evolution can demonstrate how intelligence came into existence, including the intelligence of misguided people who misuse science to try to explain creation without allowing any role to God.

 

“In the beginning was the Word.” The Bible says it and, properly understood, the evidence of science confirms it. Anyone who says otherwise is peddling fantasy, not fact.

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I think evolution is a fact, but like everything, we still have to study way more. But I do think it's the most plausible answer to where we come from. There are so many fossils that prove how our species have changed over the years, and how animals evolved differently because they migrated to different areas of the world. It's plausible to say that polar bears evolved to be polar bears because it gave them an advantage with the environment. Of course we can't just affirm something because everything is possible, but I do think evolution is the closest theory we've discovered yet.

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I think evolution is a fact, but like everything, we still have to study way more. But I do think it's the most plausible answer to where we come from. There are so many fossils that prove how our species have changed over the years, and how animals evolved differently because they migrated to different areas of the world. It's plausible to say that polar bears evolved to be polar bears because it gave them an advantage with the environment. Of course we can't just affirm something because everything is possible, but I do think evolution is the closest theory we've discovered yet.

 

Polar bears might well have become polar bears because of where they migrated to; but they still were BEARS. The polar bears didn't evolve from penguins, as an example. They were some type of bear before they migrated into the cold climate, and then they devloped into a kind of bear that was better adapted to their environment; but they certainly didn't evolve into being a bear once they got there.

 

Atheist scientists have tried to drive a wedge into the belief system of Christians, and some people (even Christian people) have started believing the atheist lies over the holy Word of God that we are given in the Bible.

I believe that the world is just exactly what God and the Bible tells us that it is, so I believe in an earth created by God, and animals that were created as animals, and not that they developed from bacteria or even sea creatures, over millenia. Obviously, if we were created in the image of God, we didn't start out looking like monkeys and develop into what we are like now.

If you are willing to look into the facts with an open mind, cecejailer, you will find that people have been indoctrinated with scientific lies about many things.

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The best evidence for the Hand of the Creator can be seen in the pre-Cambrian explosion where, by the fossil record, almost all phyla 'spontaneously' ( < 5 million years) came into existence beginning around 542 million years ago which directly conflicts with Darwin's evolutionary theory on the evolution of species. Certainly species have evolved since then to account for the change in the environment, climate, atmospheric content and solar output to survive to reach the current day but there appears to be significant evidence of a "Prime Mover" to put this process into place. That being said, I certainly disagree with those people who claim the earth is only ~8,000 years old as given by a strictly literal translation of the Bible as there are organism and historical objects that exceed that age on Earth so I agree that Earth is about 4.5 billion years old.

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There's no denying that evolution is a very real thing. It's hard for someone to argue creation over evolution, simply because the evidence towards evolution is so dominant. The idea of evolution doesn't completely diminish the idea of God, but it doesn't exactly help it. There's a reason that evolution is brought into our education. There's a reason why we've collectively made the decision to teach our children about evolution. Although not every animal has evolved, we have still changed immensely over the years. We are evolving as we speak, changing and adapting to the world around us.

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The thing about evolution is that it doesn't actually contradict the Bible unless you believe the Bible to be literal all the time. It has been the scientifically held theory for a long time and unless you have significant evidence to dispute it, you're going to come off as being a bit silly. As people often say, the church used to at one point condemn people who claimed that the earth revolved around the Sun. Nowadays we know that to be true and can clearly see that it does not contradict Christian belief at all. The same process is likely to happen with Christians who don't think evolution is true.

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It has been the scientifically held theory for a long time and unless you have significant evidence to dispute it, you're going to come off as being a bit silly.

There is significant evidence against it but most people aren't aware of it. One reason for this is that the whole world is under Satan's power and he suppresses any evidence that can lead people to the truth.

We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

(1 John 5:19 ESV)

Here ate three sites where you can find out about some of this suppressed evidence:

 

https://answersingenesis.org/

 

http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/

 

https://apolojedi.com/2014/08/31/creation-manifesto/

 

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I don't understand how Phillip E. Johnson can accept micro-evolution but reject macro-evolution done over a long period of time. He fails to understand that mutation allows for genetics to gain more variation that allows for animals to slowly transform over time. Since the circumstances needed for fossils to be preserved are rare, we might never know the full 99% of it and get the complete picture. But if we could, it would only show the greatness of God's creativity when it comes to animal and plant design.

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There is significant evidence against it but most people aren't aware of it. One reason for this is that the whole world is under Satan's power and he suppresses any evidence that can lead people to the truth.

We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

(1 John 5:19 ESV)

Here ate three sites where you can find out about some of this suppressed evidence:

 

https://answersingenesis.org/

 

http://www.piltdownsuperman.com/

 

https://apolojedi.com/2014/08/31/creation-manifesto/

 

When it comes to science, which I haven't studied beyond high school, I'd like to trust the words of the majority of scientists. If conclusive evidence were found for a young earth and all the evolutionists admitted that they had made a mistake, I'd have to apologize and believe in a young earth. But as it stands right now, these Creationist Scientists are on the same standing as the academics who believe aliens helped build the pyramids. It's a crazy idea and they don't have enough evidence to back it up. Maybe it is Satan's work, but I don't see why he'd bother himself with convincing people of something that doesn't contradict Christianity. Belief in a young earth is not Biblical but is a tradition that has developed.

I am reading a book called "Why Science doesn't disprove God." by Amir Aczel. It's probably a good book to read for Christians and non-christians alike.

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I am reading a book called "Why Science doesn't disprove God." by Amir Aczel.
I was thinking of buying it just the other day. What are your overall thoughts on the book?

 

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I'm a believer in the young earth and the flood account helped me to understand a lot about the science of a young earth as the fossil records, coal and oil as examples.

 

I also take Genesis very seriously now after studying it along with creation or young earth science or proofs for a young earth.

 

God said time and time again that the seed was to be after its own kind.

 

And God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth.” And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.

 

Again

And God said, “Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.” 21 So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

 

The entirety of the Genesis account of creation continues that each thing He created was to multiply according to its own kind not evolve from grass to tree or fish to frog. These are not of their own kind.

 

In my personal belief if I can't agree that God is giving an accurate account of His creation why would I expect all the rest of what's written to be accurate as well. After research into it I agree that the earth is young and no macro evolution ever happened. Species as in a horse gives birth to a horse and variation of species I agree with and the adaptation of species.

 

For me evolution on the macro level does not agree with the creation account in Genesis for multiple reasons.

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If conclusive evidence were found for a young earth and all the evolutionists admitted that they had made a mistake, I'd have to apologize and believe in a young earth.

There is evidence of a young earth but evolutionists aren't willing to admit it. https://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2016/03/13/the-missing-navels/

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There is evidence of a young earth but evolutionists aren't willing to admit it. https://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2016/03/13/the-missing-navels/

 

That navel analogy doesn't really seem applicable. As to the several claims of evidence against evolution, as I said earlier I don't have the expertise to refute them although if I were to search around the internet I wouldn't be surprised if I found alternate explanation. There may be things that evolution can't explain but I'm sure they are working to find answers. My point is still the same, since the majority of scientists consider evolution to be correct it must be the best explanation that they have. I don't understand why you think they have sufficient evidence for a young earth but aren't willing to admit it. What do you think is motivating them from concealing the truth? Surely the whole point of their research is to try and discover the truth. I also don't understand why you want to believe in a young earth so badly that you are willing to oppose most academics.

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I hear what scientist said this and what theorist said this and what physics says about this...I rarely hear these days what does God say about His creation. When I read what He has to say about His creation it doesn't include the theory of modern evolution.

 

We are to test all things by the word of God not by man

but test all things, hold fast to what is good--1 Thes 5:21

 

And for good measure from Romans 3:4

Let God be true though every one were a liar

 

 

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What do you think is motivating them from concealing the truth?

 

Please read Romans chapter 1.

 

God bless,

William

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I hear what scientist said this and what theorist said this and what physics says about this...I rarely hear these days what does God say about His creation. When I read what He has to say about His creation it doesn't include the theory of modern evolution.

 

We are to test all things by the word of God not by man

 

 

And for good measure from Romans 3:4

 

 

 

The problem is the Bible isn't a hundred percent clear on this whole matter of evolution and what God says about it. Which is why this debate is a thing within the Christian community in the first place. I see no fault in the the theory of evolution and I don't see why Christians fight against it.

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Please read Romans chapter 1.

 

God bless,

William

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I still don't buy that all these academics have evidence for a young earth but are intentionally hiding it from us. It is plausible though.

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I don't get why it is so difficult for Christians to believe only in creation. Just the fact alone that creation has fewer loopholes than evolution is enough for me. Creation covers everything, while evolution has holes in it so big you could hurl the moon through them. By the way, rootle... academics DO have evidences for a young earth and they are NOT hiding them from us. There are several books out there on the subject. In fact, I just googled it and a whole page of stuff-- both for and against-- came up. There are such things as Christian scientists, by the way... and I don't mean the Christian Science faith either. Christianity doesn't mock science, it embraces it. Real science, that is... not silly theories.

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Thanks for the suggestion. I still don't buy that all these academics have evidence for a young earth but are intentionally hiding it from us. It is plausible though.

 

A young earth suggests or points to God or a god or an intelligent creator at the very least because evolution can't happen fast enough in the young earth theory, yeah? Hopefully you'll agree that's fair.

 

Schools (public especially) are not allowed to teach creation because of separation of church and state. Evolution is the only other option. We can't pray in school, cases of children being punished for saying "bless you", the bible isn't allowed as a personal book at school and inviting friends to church might just that kid expelled

The education system is hostile towards creation. Even myself, in college, failed a research paper for this reason only: I didn't agree with Darwin or macro evolution theory. It was well written and backed by research but my professor failed it because I wouldn't give in and say "Darwin is right"

 

They don't want prayer, they don't want the bible, they don't want creation theory, why would any science back peddle and admit they're wrong if they nearly spit fire at creation theory simply due to God or god? Bill Nye has said teaching creation is akin to child abuse.

Simply, they don't like God.

 

The research is out there for creation, in droves, the evidence is also easily found. And the reason we don't hear much from the creation side is also easy to find.

 

If you get a chance I'd really recommend a short but great documentary done by Ben Stein on this very subject. Why are Intelligent Design theories (not all are Christian) not being taught, published etc

 

It's called Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed

 

 

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The problem is the Bible isn't a hundred percent clear on this whole matter of evolution and what God says about it. Which is why this debate is a thing within the Christian community in the first place. I see no fault in the the theory of evolution and I don't see why Christians fight against it.

 

I understand your point, trust me. My husband was an atheist and hard core evolutionary. He was "Mr. Science"

 

When I challenged him to prove evolution over creation, just for fun, he found salvation 6 months later and is now dedicated to helping others learn the many faults in evolution and the proofs for young earth/ creation. He didn't see the proofs at first either but when he started to see proof of a young earth he was confronted by the possibility of God. That freaked him out, he was even angry. But he figured he had to know the god of creation...he searched through islam, Hindu and a few others as well as Jewish and Christian

 

He found his answers in Genesis mostly when it continually says God created each thing (plant, animal, etc) to reproduce only it's own kind. No fish to frog only fish to fish irregardless of the species variations a fish has always been a fish (just example)

 

So the Bible is clear but I often think that the teaching of evolution can muddy the scripture

 

 

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A young earth suggests or points to God or a god or an intelligent creator at the very least because evolution can't happen fast enough in the young earth theory, yeah? Hopefully you'll agree that's fair.

 

Schools (public especially) are not allowed to teach creation because of separation of church and state. Evolution is the only other option. We can't pray in school, cases of children being punished for saying "bless you", the bible isn't allowed as a personal book at school and inviting friends to church might just that kid expelled

The education system is hostile towards creation. Even myself, in college, failed a research paper for this reason only: I didn't agree with Darwin or macro evolution theory. It was well written and backed by research but my professor failed it because I wouldn't give in and say "Darwin is right"

 

They don't want prayer, they don't want the bible, they don't want creation theory, why would any science back peddle and admit they're wrong if they nearly spit fire at creation theory simply due to God or god? Bill Nye has said teaching creation is akin to child abuse.

Simply, they don't like God.

 

The research is out there for creation, in droves, the evidence is also easily found. And the reason we don't hear much from the creation side is also easy to find.

 

If you get a chance I'd really recommend a short but great documentary done by Ben Stein on this very subject. Why are Intelligent Design theories (not all are Christian) not being taught, published etc

 

It's called Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed

 

 

I do agree with your first point, it's fair. But I don't think you got what I was trying to say earlier. Evolution is not a theory that says that God didn't create life, and I'm sure you know that. Evolutionists don't believe in evolution because they want to believe in it, they believe in it because the evidence led them to that explanation of how so many species came to be. The evidence that geologists and archaeologists found led them to realize that the earth was older than had previously been thought. Now this doesn't even contradict Christianity but people had become comfortable believing that the Earth was 6000 or so years old and didn't want to change their beliefs in accordance with modern research.

 

So the point is, the people who first suggested that the earth was old and proposed evolution were not doing it with the intention to disprove the Bible, they were simply letting the evidence they found determine the conclusion. These other scientists who now try to provide evidence for a young earth are people who are determined to stick with the traditional young earth belief, so basically they are approaching the matter with an agenda. The thing is if you want to believe something, even the smallest of potential loopholes in an existing theory is likely to be exaggerated in your mind. Essentially I think it's a problem of confirmation bias.

And yeah I've watched a part of that documentary, I think the intelligent design argument should be at least mentioned in classrooms. Sorry for being so long-winded.

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I still don't buy that all these academics have evidence for a young earth but are intentionally hiding it from us.

They aren't intentionally hiding the evidence; they have been blinded by Satan so that they can't see the evidence.

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

(2 Corinthians 4:3-4 ESV)

Satan not only blinds people to the truth of salvation but to other truths which could lead to their salvation, such as the truth that we were created by God. Belief in evolution is such a pervasive part of our society that even Christians accept it. I even believed it for a long time after I became a Christian because I attended public schools that taught it had been scientifically proven. It was only after I began studying other sources of information that I realized that what I had been taught in school was false.

 

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