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Alfie Evans Has Died: 'We are Heartbroken,' Say Parents

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Alfie Evans, the 23-month-old little boy who has a rare neurodegenerative disorder and whose parents were fighting to save his life, has passed away at Alder Hey Children’s Hospital in Liverpool, UK, where he was being kept.

 

 

 

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ConfessionalLutheran

That whole sorry affair was a tragedy. May God grant eternal rest and the Light of His Presence to that child who suffered so in his short time here on earth.

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ChatterBox

An absolute tragedy, and such a disgrace the hospital wouldn't let him go home. Once the life support was detached, he survived, and the hospital was no longer treating him, they should not have had any further say in his treatment as they weren't providing any!

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davidtaylorjr

This is a heartbreaking story. 

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Pouty Puppy

He's in the presence of our Lord now and away from all suffering and infirmity. At least that is something to hold onto for his parents who grieve this horrible loss. God be with them. And God be with any child who happens to need care in the British socialized medicine program. Amen!

 

It is even more of a heartbreak because all hope was stripped from him and his family due to the rules of the nations socialized medicine laws. And the hospitals depraved indifference to pleas to allow Alfie to seek hope elsewhere. 
In every respect a little boy that was fighting to live, surviving even after taken off life support, was murdered by the hospital and British policy. 

 

 

 

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ChatterBox

 

This case is less socialised medicine and more a hospital with a bad reputation already:

 

On 04 May 2018 at 6:58 PM, Pouty Puppy said:

And the hospitals depraved indifference to pleas to allow Alfie to seek hope elsewhere. 

Sadly this is not the first time Alder Hey has been in the news for the depraved treatment of children. The last time involved a mass burial in 2008, ten years after the 1999 scandal was uncovered and the hospital officials had to be prevented by law from approaching the families involved to avoid causing distress. It is now ten years after that, and you'd think they would have learned some compassion.

 

Remains of 10,000 children to be laid to rest in Alder Hey Hospital scandal mass burial - Telegraph 2008

"Under laws introduced following the scandal, officials were forbidden from approaching relatives themselves."

 

To make it quite clear about how bad this scandal was, this report on the BBC named them for selling children's organs and organ harvesting:

"had given Thymus glands, removed during heart surgery from live children, to a pharmaceutical company for research.

They then received cash donations from the company involved. " - (BBC 2001 - click to read full article).

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Pouty Puppy
2 hours ago, ChatterBox said:

 

This case is less socialised medicine and more a hospital with a bad reputation already:

 

Sadly this is not the first time Alder Hey has been in the news for the depraved treatment of children. The last time involved a mass burial in 2008, ten years after the 1999 scandal was uncovered and the hospital officials had to be prevented by law from approaching the families involved to avoid causing distress. It is now ten years after that, and you'd think they would have learned some compassion.

 

Remains of 10,000 children to be laid to rest in Alder Hey Hospital scandal mass burial - Telegraph 2008

"Under laws introduced following the scandal, officials were forbidden from approaching relatives themselves."

 

To make it quite clear about how bad this scandal was, this report on the BBC named them for selling children's organs and organ harvesting:

"had given Thymus glands, removed during heart surgery from live children, to a pharmaceutical company for research.

They then received cash donations from the company involved. " - (BBC 2001 - click to read full article).

Excellent information that leads me to pray for every child in the hospital known as Alder Hey. http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/prayer-hands-smiley-emoticon.gif[/IMG]

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reformed baptist
12 hours ago, ChatterBox said:

 

This case is less socialised medicine and more a hospital with a bad reputation already:

 

Sadly this is not the first time Alder Hey has been in the news for the depraved treatment of children. The last time involved a mass burial in 2008, ten years after the 1999 scandal was uncovered and the hospital officials had to be prevented by law from approaching the families involved to avoid causing distress. It is now ten years after that, and you'd think they would have learned some compassion.

 

Remains of 10,000 children to be laid to rest in Alder Hey Hospital scandal mass burial - Telegraph 2008

"Under laws introduced following the scandal, officials were forbidden from approaching relatives themselves."

 

To make it quite clear about how bad this scandal was, this report on the BBC named them for selling children's organs and organ harvesting:

"had given Thymus glands, removed during heart surgery from live children, to a pharmaceutical company for research.

They then received cash donations from the company involved. " - (BBC 2001 - click to read full article).

A terrible, terrible thing that should never have happened - and I can't remember the outcome for all involved. I know doctors were struck off but I don't recall is jail time was served - so I wont comment on how well I feel it was dealt with when it all came to light - but the events between 1988 and 1995 have little relevance to this case. Can you establish a meaningful link between the two situations? 

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reformed baptist
On 5/4/2018 at 6:58 PM, Pouty Puppy said:

to the rules of the nations socialized medicine laws.

 

Why not let it go and let the family mourn!    

 

 

 

 

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ChatterBox
58 minutes ago, reformed baptist said:

A terrible, terrible thing that should never have happened - and I can't remember the outcome for all involved. I know doctors were struck off but I don't recall is jail time was served - so I wont comment on how well I feel it was dealt with when it all came to light - but the events between 1988 and 1995 have little relevance to this case. Can you establish a meaningful link between the two situations? 

One doctor was struck off in the UK. No jail time was served. The fallout was still going on in 2008, so the 1999 date is misleading. Certain members of the hospital board, including the Medical Director, were in place during both Alfie Evans' sad treatment and the fallout of the scandal.

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reformed baptist
1 hour ago, ChatterBox said:

One doctor was struck off in the UK. No jail time was served. The fallout was still going on in 2008, so the 1999 date is misleading. Certain members of the hospital board, including the Medical Director, were in place during both Alfie Evans' sad treatment and the fallout of the scandal.

No, the fallout out is still going on today! There will still be families out there hurting over this!

 

The 2008 date is regards to when the hospital would bury the remains that no one had come forward for - but maybe you would prefer they held onto them indefinitely! What happened in 2008 wasn't a scandal it was the end of a long process to bring a solution to the situation

 

And as for the medical director - he was appointed in 2004 - long after the scandal had happened and probably a long time after the way forward had been agreed! He also seems to be the longest serving, the Chief exec was appointed in 2008

http://www.alderhey.nhs.uk/about-us/our-board/

 

But why the facts get in way - and why not let these pour people mourn in peace! 

   

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Pouty Puppy
6 hours ago, reformed baptist said:

Why not let it go and let the family mourn!    

 

 

 

 

So that other parents shall mourn when their child is let to die in that sorry example of hospital? 
What's more important to you? Information that informs and forewarns how bad Alder Hey is? Or remaining quiet so that parents learn the heartbreaking way? 

Alfie died because hope was stripped from him as a hospital in England held him hostage till he died. 

Let it go? 
Why are you here if you believe you should let it go? Just don't post in this thread and you'll have succeeded. 

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reformed baptist
On 5/9/2018 at 4:42 PM, Pouty Puppy said:

Alfie died because hope was stripped from him as a hospital in England held him hostage till he died. 

 

Rubbish! Your obviously commenting on something you know very little about - and your turning this poor child into a political pawn and I'm sorry but I think that's disgusting! 

 

 

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Pouty Puppy
7 hours ago, reformed baptist said:

Rubbish! Your obviously commenting on something you know very little about - and your turning this poor child into a political pawn and I'm sorry but I think that's disgusting! 

Sorry, yes. Though contrition has no thing to do with those vile remarks. You revived a thread that was down the page without attention for three days just to say that. That does not serve Alfie. Nor is it an example of compassion for his loss. But that wasn't your point, obviously. 

 

I don't speak about the tragedy this child's loss was unless I know what I'm talking about. 

You should give that a try before casting stones at a mirror.   Or maybe it is just easier to hate than to educate yourself. 

 

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This thread is closed too much hate and too many  personal attacks .

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