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Without bashing any particular denomination- (an answer to SueD.)

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We know that no one lay a foundation already laid. That foundation is Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus Christ). And if any man build upon that foundation gold, silver precious stones , ,wood , hay or straw, his work will be revealed by the Fire of the Holy Spirit.

The foundation is complete. The foundation as scripture says is Christ and Christ is the Word. John 1 King James Version (KJV)

 

 

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

 

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

 

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

 

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

 

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

The conception of Christianity began with the first Word uttered to Man by the Word. Yeshua makes it completion by His birth, death, burial and resurrection. On the Cross He said; It is finished!

 

John19:The Death of Jesus

…29A jar of sour wine was sitting there. So they soaked a sponge in the wine, put it on a stalk of hyssop, and lifted it to His mouth. 30When Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished.” And bowing His head, He yielded up His spirit. 31It was the day of Preparation, and the next day was a High Sabbath. In order that the bodies would not remain on the cross during the Sabbath, the Jews asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies removed.…

 

He established the Word with the Hebrews and completed it in His Incarnation. Judaism means: By the Jews, and Jew comes from the word Judah meaning: Praise the Praised One.Christianity or Christos is the Greek translation of Hamashiach which means "The Anointed One" So His Religion is not called Judaism, this is what Jews call it, simply because it came from this race of people. And the Western world calls it "Christianity" and in fact it is, the Anointed ones religion, all should Praise the Praised One. So all who are Christian praise Yeshua Hamashiach, but do you know He actually has a name for His Elect. A name He has reserved for this end time people. For "the first shall be last and the last shall be first". Her name is revealed in 2John:

 

Greeting from the Elder

1The elder, To the chosen lady and her children, whom I love in the truth — and not I alone, but also all who know the truth — 2because of the truth that abides in us and will be with us forever:…

 

The Lady Elect is the Bride of Rev. 12 and she is made after the Image of the Virgin Mother . And consist of two parts. I will not reveal all this in this thread, but lets just say the bride is here. The sign of Sept.23, 2017 , a sign never come together in the heavens until these days and never will again. Its conclusion over Israel

denotes that the Bride will return there, at the appointed time during these end of days. She is not there yet. The Eclipse which preceded the sign in August, sliced across the center of the United states. This denotes an exodus type event for the portion of the Bride which resides here. This same thing happened before the Exodus event for the Israelites. An eclipse cut across the center of Africa before the tumultuous time which the Egyptian fell and the Israelites experienced their deliverance out of Egypt and into the wilderness.

 

What does this have to do with denominations? A new Season is close upon us. It will result in the Hallelujah of Rev.19. Our faith goes through cycles and changes, and what is now, will not be in the end." Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will never pass away. " There is an event that will be during our life times, that is -if we have the natural course of days. But I know based on my age I will see this event, given the Lord grants me health always. It is revealed in Rev.6: 12, interestingly this comes out to be three 6's. This will be the shortening of the Tribulation , which Christ speaks of. Many believe it is simply shortening the days toward the end of it. It is a disruption of the beast system agenda. And is the "Appearance"= Apparition of Christ before His time. It is revealed in the Wedding feast at Canaan. It is a Miracle which will allow for the Best wine saved for the end of the Wedding feast= end of days, to be served up by the servants suggested by His Mother. A dialogue in wisdom and a message for the the LADY ELECT. The Lord calls her "KURIA" means: "Noble Lady" this revealed in 2John . In the Greek "Kopia". This is Christ's Bride's name, Church's name. The Elect are a special group of people who will comprise or make the first resurrection, Rev.20. Blessed are those invited to the Wedding Feast of the Lamb, they will also be the first resurrection. They consist of only 288, 000 people, revealed in Rev.14 and Rev.7 interestingly enough this comes out to be 3 sevens. 3- the glorifying of the Holy trinity and 7 is the number of completion. The Church in Christ during the 666 beast system government.

Matthew 24:29-31

 

The Return of the Son of Man

…29Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ 30At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.…

 

I am going to interpret this as it is to be understood. This correlates with Rev.6 when we read this it is not the end, there inVerses29-30 there is still another seal to be opened. This is the SIGN spoken of in the above verse Matthew 24:30and in Rev.6 and all tribes of Israel Rev7 will mourn. This event is the conclusion of the Two Witnesses time of prophesying. Rev.11 The Beast system institutions which includes present day denominations will be against "Kuria" and her Elect Witnesses= Prophets. Who will be of Kuria? The Lord decides. Now the remaining part of Matthew 24:30 verse They will see the Son of MAN COMING on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.This is the second Coming. The SIGN of Matthew 30 is not His Coming, but before His coming. Those of the beast system government will say: "Hide us from the face of he who sits upon the throne and from the wrath of the LAMB!

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

 

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

 

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

 

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

 

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

 

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Notice this is the WRATH OF THE LAMB, The sign given us. When He returns He will return as a Lion. Revelation 5:5 King James Version (KJV)

 

5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

 

 

See seven seals, the sixth seal is not the end! It will be a nourishment time for His Elect the Union of Rachel =Younger Church, = Those grafted into Israel like Rachel was grafted into the Union of Jacob and Leah. Leah = the Old Covenant because she is the oldest sister. They will be the Rev.14= Rachel portion and Rev. 7 the Leah portion who will be brought together after the Witnesses prophecy. I will explain the Rev. 12 sign in another thread if My Heavenly Father permits. A New Season is coming! God Bless!

 

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Just Mike

I notice you use some Words for Jesus Christ that reflect a Jewish side, are you? I too agree with someone who said all denominations are not truly Christian especially liberal ones that have homosexual pastors. There are some who support a woman's right to murder their babies as well.

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Hi Victory

 

To respond to your post -- btw - did you find my comment to your other #6? post?

 

I grew up with KJV -- then went to the older NIV -- then to NKJV and now have expanded to using an ESV, also. And I have an NIV study Bible sitting here beside my computer. I look up and quote from this in various posts / topics.

 

So -- yes, Jesus Christ is the Word as stated in John 1:1 -3 -- He is our foundation.

 

Without the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ we have no hope -- no Christianity -- so Christianity started at the bodily resurrection of Christ. He ascended back up to His Father after those 40 days -- born-again believers will Also ascend to be with Jesus Christ -- either by being raptured out of this world // up-gathering. or upon his / her death that person will be immediate with Christ.

 

True -- Jesus Christ GAVE His life for us -- it wasn't taken. His legs were Not broken as were those of the two thieves. Soldiers' pierced his side with a spear and recognized that death had already taken place. His hands and his feet were nailed to the cross. No bones were broken.

 

Jesus Christ came from the tribe of Judah -- the Jews.

 

Christianity was 'birthed' at the hill called Golgotha and I'm thinking that That is outside of Jerusalem. Not in this country / western world.

 

God's elect are called the elect.

 

 

I'm fine up to this point -- you're right about 2 John and those verses. But you're getting into muddy waters with Rev. 12 and the Virgin Mother 'thing' -- the Virgin Mother is from RCC. The Virgin Mother would be Mary but that is RCC , not Scriptural. Mary was a virgin , yes, she conceived Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. But after His birth, Mary went on to have James and some other sons and a daughter or two. So, she did Not remain a virgin.

 

Your paragraph starting with "The Lady Elect is ...... -- there have been speculations about the eclipse and dates and such. Lots of theories 'out there'. We need to be very careful.

 

If you'll look at Rev 7 and 14 again -- the number is 144,000 not 288,000. They are from the 12 tribes of Israel.

 

You have a lot of factual information mixed with a lot of speculation and the book of Revelation -- lots of people have studied that for a long time and come up with various interpretations.

 

Then your paragraph starting out with "I am going to interpret this as it is to be understood" is a red flag to me.

 

Your sharing has been interesting. Your comments are welcome.

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I understand what you are saying. And yes without Christ Resurrection there would be no Christianity. Maybe you miss what I am saying. When a child is conceived we know it is a child and goes through a growth process. When that child is birthed that child is what it is intended to be from the moment of conception. That child in this case is God's Religion which is birthed as Christ. And yes all are birthed in His Birth, Death, burial and Resurrection but the conception of this began with the first Word. Maybe you over look that Yeshua is the Word made FLESH , but in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, and all things came into existence because of Him. You are right- nothing would be of the faith without the birth of the Word in Flesh. That is why it is written one is not a Jew unless he is inwardly.

Romans 2:29.

The Jews and the Law

…28A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. 29No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man’s praise does not come from men, but from God.

 

This proves both our points. That is why, Messiah rejecting Jews abort their own lineage , when rejecting the fullness and birth of the faith, that was conceptualized with and in the first Hebrews. First to the Jew then Greek.

Unashamed of the Gospel

15That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome. 16I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, then to the Greek. 17For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”…

 

I only said, all of the written word of scripture is the Word and the beginning, or first word written is the conception of the faith, Christ is the Birth of it.

 

As for Rev.14 this is a different group from Rev.7 and I will point out why.

[h=1]Revelation 14:3-5 New King James Version (NKJV)[/h]

3 They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were redeemed[a] from among men, being firstfruits to God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no deceit,[b] for they are without fault before the throne of God.[c]

 

They are redeemed from among men which means from undesirable behavior or character flaws. This group are firstfruits which means they are part of the first resurrection. They have not been defiled by women= false churches. These are made perfect before the tribulation begins. They are of the mind frame of Philadelphia= Brotherly love, they are the part of the Bride who will be snatched up at the end of the tribulation. They are the Shepherdess portion of the Bride= Rachel the Younger. They are brought into the the house of Israel through grafting. Rachel symbolizes this. When reading the story of Jacob we learn he meets

Rachel when she comes to the well to water her father's flock. She is s shepherdess. She gives Jacob water and nourishment. This is the symbolism for the Younger Church. They will nourish Israel and Shepherd the remnant of Jacob. This is the Leah portion Rev 7. Two covenants are represented with these two groups. This has to do with Rev.12

The Revelation 7 group make clean their garments through the blood of the Lamb and wash them white through the tribulation.Rev.7:13-17

13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

 

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

 

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

 

16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

 

17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

They will come together during the Hallelujah of Rev. 19, and be one house, one covenant. The Everlasting Covenant.

 

 

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Oh, one last thing, Mother Miriam (Mary) Is SOLA SCRIPTURA not designated to the RCC but all believers you would know nothing of her without it. As for muddy water, the only muddy water there is, is her being falsely represented to various degrees by ALL PRESENT DAY DENOMINATIONS. To know the foundation is to know what the Word says. And as for up to this point= Me mentioning her, I AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST. All patriarchs and matriarchs of the Word represent something as to meaning for the Church.NOT ONE IS CUT OFF. It doesn't matter what people say or perceive. The Church of Christ will be an Immaculate= spotless = Virginal= untouched by sin in Him, BORN AGAIN a return to a VIRGINAL STATE. Will the Church of Christ be this? If no then He died for nothing.

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The above was my second response, my other is being moderated. Che Sara ,Sara (What will be, will be). God Bless!

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Solomon8:5:7 5 Who is this coming up from the wilderness,

Leaning upon her beloved?

 

I awakened you under the apple tree.

There your mother brought you forth;

There she who bore you brought you forth.

6 Set me as a seal upon your heart,

 

As a seal upon your arm;

For love is as strong as death,

Jealousy as cruel as the grave;[a]

Its flames are flames of fire,

A most vehement[b] flame.

 

7 Many waters cannot quench love,

Nor can the floods drown it.

If a man would give for love

All the wealth of his house,

It would be utterly despised.

 

If only you knew what this meant. Before the Witnesses come the Bride fashioned after Mary is already at work. Many will spew water to try to drown her. Rev.12:15.

15Then from the mouth of the serpent spewed water like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away in the torrent.

 

Everything that happened to Mother Mary will happen to the Bride at least the Rachel portion= a sword will pierce your heart.

 

The apple tree in the Song of Solomon is Israel, which all of the younger Church is grafted into we have AWAKENED UNDER THE TREE=ISRAEL. Who is the Mother who gave Birth to Christ in Israel? In the coming of Christ , all are Born Again. In, His birth- is the birth of all.

She who BORE YOU brought you forth, all Born in Christ. She bore= His Mother- is a believer part of the Body of Christ? Were you bore in His Birth, death burial and resurrection? Are you still a daughter of Eve? OT Scripture says she is the mother of all the living. If all in Adam die, but

all in Jesus are Born Again, has Miriam( Mary) by inheritance been given all born in Christ as children? If She gave Birth to Life, you are no longer dead ? For all died because of Adam and Eve's act of disobedience. The mother of the Lord bore Him and therefore all were born in Him. And since God's promise to Abraham

was fulfilled in Mary, then the number of Abraham's posterity is numbered in Her. And that numbers among the stars throughout history And are from generation, to generation who fear God and call her blessed!

Luke 1:46-55

 

Mary’s Song of Praise

 

 

46 And Mary[a] said,

“My soul magnifies the Lord,

47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,

48 for he has looked with favor on the lowliness of his servant.

Surely, from now on all generations will call me blessed;

49 for the Mighty One has done great things for me,

and holy is his name.

50 His mercy is for those who fear him

from generation to generation.

51 He has shown strength with his arm;

he has scattered the proud in the thoughts of their hearts.

52 He has brought down the powerful from their thrones,

and lifted up the lowly;

53 he has filled the hungry with good things,

and sent the rich away empty.

54 He has helped his servant Israel,

in remembrance of his mercy,

55 according to the promise he made to our ancestors,

to Abraham and to his descendants forever.”

SOLA SCRIPTURA: What does it say? His mercy is for those who FEAR HIM from GENERATION TO GENERATION. All generations who do , are then in Him, and because of this call her BLESSED!

For it is in her that the promise to Abraham is remembered therefore fulfilled.

 

SOLA SCRIPTURA:

Luke 1:39-45

 

Mary Visits Elizabeth

 

 

39 In those days Mary arose and went with haste into the hill country, to a city of Judah, 40 and she entered the house of Zechari′ah and greeted Elizabeth. 41 And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit 42 and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43 And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For behold, when the voice of your greeting came to my ears, the babe in my womb leaped for joy. 45 And blessed is she who believed that there would be[a] a fulfilment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.”

 

What does it say here? Blessed is she who believed that there would a FULFILLMENT of WHAT WAS SPOKEN TO HER FROM THE LORD. It was spoken, That in her the fulfillment of the Covenant will take place.

Can not reject her in whom the Covenant Promise is fulfilled, that would be the work of the Dragon. As he stood before her to devour her son he standes before the lady Elect "KURIA" = NOBLE LADY, hence why they fled from Herod's wrath. Hence why the pharisees always rejected Christ, so too for Kuria . The Dragon stands before the Bride to devour the Male child

of Rev.12 which states: He , WAS caught up to God and His throne. Meaning is past tense . He already came and ascended, now this is a spiritual birth..

But in this prophecy the Virgin Birth is glorified, for nothing else can come before this first. And it was Glorified in the heavens in Sept.2017. God Bless!

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Proverbs 3:13-18 [h=1]Proverbs 3:13-18[/h] [h=3]Wisdom Brings Happiness[/h] 13 Happy is a man who finds wisdom

and who acquires understanding,

14 for she is more profitable than silver,

and her revenue is better than gold.

15 She is more precious than jewels;

nothing you desire compares with her.

16 Long life[a] is in her right hand;

in her left, riches and honor.

17 Her ways are pleasant,

and all her paths, peaceful.

18 She is a tree of life to those who embrace her,

and those who hold on to her are happy.

 

 

 

 

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Oh, one last thing, Mother Miriam (Mary) Is SOLA SCRIPTURA not designated to the RCC but all believers you would know nothing of her without it. As for muddy water, the only muddy water there is, is her being falsely represented to various degrees by ALL PRESENT DAY DENOMINATIONS. To know the foundation is to know what the Word says. And as for up to this point= Me mentioning her, I AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST. All patriarchs and matriarchs of the Word represent something as to meaning for the Church.NOT ONE IS CUT OFF. It doesn't matter what people say or perceive. The Church of Christ will be an Immaculate= spotless = Virginal= untouched by sin in Him, BORN AGAIN a return to a VIRGINAL STATE. Will the Church of Christ be this? If no then He died for nothing.

One of the jobs of the Holy Spirit is that of teaching the believers the truths of God's Word. And those truths we can share with others. Believers can learn from each other as we Do share. But we Also need to be careful -- if something is Not in Scripture or is being 'lifted out of context'

 

The Gospel of Christ unto salvation -- I am not ashamed of that -- for it is the power of God unto salvation -- both to the Jew and also to the Greek.

 

People can say or perceive whatever they will -- but it's God's Word, alone, that Stands.

 

You've mentioned the Church of Christ -- do you mean of the Latter Day Saints? There is a Church of Christ in a town near me -- I'm thinking that they don't believe in eternal security. Scripture tells us that once the Holy Spirit comes to indwell a person, He Won't leave until the person is With Jesus Christ for all eternity. That person will exhibit the fruits of the spirit as found in Galations 5: 22 Love, joy, peace, long-suffering, etc.

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Solomon8:5:7 5 Who is this coming up from the wilderness,

Leaning upon her beloved?

 

I awakened you under the apple tree.

There your mother brought you forth;

There she who bore you brought you forth.

6 Set me as a seal upon your heart,

 

As a seal upon your arm;

For love is as strong as death,

Jealousy as cruel as the grave;[a]

Its flames are flames of fire,

A most vehement[b] flame.

 

7 Many waters cannot quench love,

Nor can the floods drown it.

If a man would give for love

All the wealth of his house,

It would be utterly despised.

 

If only you knew what this meant. Before the Witnesses come the Bride fashioned after Mary is already at work. Many will spew water to try to drown her. Rev.12:15.

15Then from the mouth of the serpent spewed water like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away in the torrent.

 

Everything that happened to Mother Mary will happen to the Bride at least the Rachel portion= a sword will pierce your heart.

 

The apple tree in the Song of Solomon is Israel, which all of the younger Church is grafted into we have AWAKENED UNDER THE TREE=ISRAEL. Who is the Mother who gave Birth to Christ in Israel? In the coming of Christ , all are Born Again. In, His birth- is the birth of all.

She who BORE YOU brought you forth, all Born in Christ. She bore= His Mother- is a believer part of the Body of Christ? Were you bore in His Birth, death burial and resurrection? Are you still a daughter of Eve? OT Scripture says she is the mother of all the living. If all in Adam die, but

all in Jesus are Born Again, has Miriam( Mary) by inheritance been given all born in Christ as children? If She gave Birth to Life, you are no longer dead ? For all died because of Adam and Eve's act of disobedience. The mother of the Lord bore Him and therefore all were born in Him. And since God's promise to Abraham

was fulfilled in Mary, then the number of Abraham's posterity is numbered in Her. And that numbers among the stars throughout history And are from generation, to generation who fear God and call her blessed!

Luke 1:46-55

 

Mary’s Song of Praise

 

 

46 And Mary[a] said,

“My soul magnifies the Lord,

47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,

48 for he has looked with favor on the lowliness of his servant.

Surely, from now on all generations will call me blessed;

49 for the Mighty One has done great things for me,

and holy is his name.

50 His mercy is for those who fear him

from generation to generation.

51 He has shown strength with his arm;

he has scattered the proud in the thoughts of their hearts.

52 He has brought down the powerful from their thrones,

and lifted up the lowly;

53 he has filled the hungry with good things,

and sent the rich away empty.

54 He has helped his servant Israel,

in remembrance of his mercy,

55 according to the promise he made to our ancestors,

to Abraham and to his descendants forever.”

SOLA SCRIPTURA: What does it say? His mercy is for those who FEAR HIM from GENERATION TO GENERATION. All generations who do , are then in Him, and because of this call her BLESSED!

For it is in her that the promise to Abraham is remembered therefore fulfilled.

 

SOLA SCRIPTURA:

Luke 1:39-45

 

Mary Visits Elizabeth

 

 

39 In those days Mary arose and went with haste into the hill country, to a city of Judah, 40 and she entered the house of Zechari′ah and greeted Elizabeth. 41 And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit 42 and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43 And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For behold, when the voice of your greeting came to my ears, the babe in my womb leaped for joy. 45 And blessed is she who believed that there would be[a] a fulfilment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.”

 

What does it say here? Blessed is she who believed that there would a FULFILLMENT of WHAT WAS SPOKEN TO HER FROM THE LORD. It was spoken, That in her the fulfillment of the Covenant will take place.

Can not reject her in whom the Covenant Promise is fulfilled, that would be the work of the Dragon. As he stood before her to devour her son he standes before the lady Elect "KURIA" = NOBLE LADY, hence why they fled from Herod's wrath. Hence why the pharisees always rejected Christ, so too for Kuria . The Dragon stands before the Bride to devour the Male child

of Rev.12 which states: He , WAS caught up to God and His throne. Meaning is past tense . He already came and ascended, now this is a spiritual birth..

But in this prophecy the Virgin Birth is glorified, for nothing else can come before this first. And it was Glorified in the heavens in Sept.2017. God Bless!

Victory -- at times you come across as having a special knowledge of portions of Scripture -- That is troubling. The Holy Spirit teaches All born-again believers. It's fine to share insights which is what you're doing.

 

A comment -- Mary is seen as Mother Mary by the RCC. She is considered to be next to Jesus Christ as many times we human mothers are close to our children. While it Is true that Mary Did give birth to Jesus Christ -- even She recognized her need for Him as her Savior. And She didn't understand why God would choose her to become His mother. She was greatly humbled. She Never exalted herself.

 

I Googled the September date -- there was a double eclipse -- I'm thinking that That's how it was referred to. It Was an unusual event in history. There were all sorts of comments made about something coursing through the center of the U. S.

 

What is your Scriptural basis for your last sentence -- about the virgin birth being glorified and it being glorified in the heavens on that specific date.

 

Regarding Abraham -- he believed in God and it accounted to him as righteousness.

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Proverbs 3:13-18 [h=1]Proverbs 3:13-18[/h] [h=3]Wisdom Brings Happiness[/h] 13 Happy is a man who finds wisdom

and who acquires understanding,

14 for she is more profitable than silver,

and her revenue is better than gold.

15 She is more precious than jewels;

nothing you desire compares with her.

16 Long life[a] is in her right hand;

in her left, riches and honor.

17 Her ways are pleasant,

and all her paths, peaceful.

18 She is a tree of life to those who embrace her,

and those who hold on to her are happy.

 

 

 

Totally agree with the passage -- haven't watched the video. Psalms and Proverbs are beautiful and filled with Godly wisdom. Proverbs 3:5-6 "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understand, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths."

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Sue D.

Good morning Victory

 

You've shared a Lot of info / Scripture.

 

I'm going to go back to the basics -- salvation. There is the virgin birth of Jesus Christ -- made possible by the Holy Spirit coming upon Mary while she was betrothed to Joseph. She was pregnant Before they had gotten together. Therefore, Jesus Christ was born as both Deity And human. And Jesus was the Son of God And , while here on earth was Immanuel / God with us. His death, burial and bodily resurrection were planned for Us. So that no one would Have to die in their sins. God is omniscient -- He alone knows Everything Including who His elect are. The job of born-again believers is to share the Gospel unto salvation with all who we come into contact with. Because We don't know who God's elect are.

 

Everyone who does believe in their heart -- Does also have the Holy Spirit indwelling them. It's called the Universal / invisible Church. And there is Also the local body of believers. The local church or place of meeting is the 'visible' body of Christ. Hebrews 10:25 says that we are not to forsake the assembling of ourselves together as some people have done. We Are to gather together for reading His Word, encouraging each other., for using the spiritual gifts that each believer is given by the Holy Spirit at the time of their salvation.

 

I use the term born-again believers because there are lots of people who believe that there Is a God. They acknowledge the God in the Bible. And they believe that there was a person called Jesus. They acknowledge that info the same as they acknowledge world history or the various presidents of this / their own country. But they don't acknowledge their Him as a Savior. They have not been drawn by the Holy Spirit to accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. They don't, as of yet, have a heart belief and have not confessed Jesus Christ as their Lord. That last step ensures that a person is a 'born-again' believer. They have been born both physically And spiritually.

 

 

Still open to your comments.

 

Have a great day.

 

 

 

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Sue D.

Hi Victory -- Did you find my comment in the original thread about a mediator? I'd responded to it in the comment area in the very end of your long post.

 

And I also referred to it in the last post in that original thread.

 

I'd shared back that in 1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all men....."

 

You'd presented a lot of information about mediation / mediators. So I was responding back with that verse.

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