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Calvinism says we have no inclination to seek God, or as I understand Calvinism, we have no free will to believe or reject Jesus Christ. Faith is not something man contributes to salvation, but is itself a part of God's gift of salvation-it is God's gift to the sinner, not the sinner to man.

 

Question; Why pray for the lost, be it for our family, friends, or the lost world? What good is our efforts to pray for the lost when they are not able to reject or accept Jesus Christ? What responsibility do the lost have when they have no choice about Jesus Christ?

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I believe God is eternal so all is foreknown.

But i think it is a good thing that we dont know.

So let's keep doing and I'm sure we will be much more fit to worship because of the experience.

 

I think our freedom of choice does not so much determine what we are but instead it shows what we were before the foundation of the world.

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Calvinism says we have no inclination to seek God, or as I understand Calvinism, we have no free will to believe or reject Jesus Christ. Faith is not something man contributes to salvation, but is itself a part of God's gift of salvation-it is God's gift to the sinner, not the sinner to man.

 

Calvinism conveys from Scripture that the natural/unregenerate man has no inclination to seek for God (Romans 3:9-11). Calvinism teaches that God puts the inclination or desire after Him in the regenerate man's heart. "Regeneration is the theological term used to describe rebirth. It refers to a new generating, a new genesis, a new beginning." - https://www.christforums.org/forum/c...eneration-mean

 

The main difference and one worthy of emphasis between Calvinist and non Calvinist soteriology is Calvinist believe that Jesus Christ is sufficient to save 100% completely while non-Calvinist soteriology believes that while Jesus is necessary, He is not sufficient. If we believe the unregenerate/natural man has the power in himself to exercise, then we make the Cross and Grace of Jesus Christ to no effect. Either Christ is a complete savior (Monergism), OR He helps us to save ourselves (Synerigism). Historically, what Calvinism means is that Jesus Christ is a complete savior, not a partial one.

 

Sufficient in Calvinist theology means Christ meets all the conditions for us that are NECESSARY for our salvation, not only some of the conditions with emphasis. It further means what Jesus does for us on the cross meets ALL of God's requirements for us, including giving us a new heart which is needed to believe and obey (Ezekiel 36:26). In other words, apart from grace sinners are unable to obey the gospel, any more than the law, without a new heart. The non-Calvinist (Synergist) position denies this and instead affirms that the natural man, can have faith in Christ while still in the flesh (with an unrenewed heart).

 

as I understand Calvinism, we have no free will to believe or reject Jesus Christ.

 

Calvinist do not argue man has no choice. We emphasize man's choice and stress that man shall be held both accountable and responsible for rejection despite not being able to CHOOSE contrary to his/her nature. The decision is really his and he bears responsibility and accountability. An example, Justme lemme emphasize the choice I am going to give you. Reach the heavens flapping your arms like a bird! Come on buddy, really put the effort in and exercise your free will. That is a choice but free will means nothing. Come on buddy you're going to be responsible and accountable should you not even try.

 

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You can no more reach the heavens like a bird because you are grounded in your human nature. The same way man can never reach heaven, righteousness, or holiness because he is grounded in his sin nature. He/she has choice, but cannot violate his/her sin nature (autonomy), that is, unless one rejects the doctrine of Original Sin (Pelagianism). God must, in His grace, regenerate man because man is dead dead dead in sin and can do nothing spiritually to merit/acquire salvation. You've heard the phrase "pulling oneself up by the bootstraps"? Exactly what Synergist suggest must happen, man must violate his/her sin nature and reach for God before God responds. Man must perform a righteous act (Isaiah 64:6) which merits his/her salvation.

 

Question; Why pray for the lost, be it for our family, friends, or the lost world? What good is our efforts to pray for the lost when they are not able to reject or accept Jesus Christ? What responsibility do the lost have when they have no choice about Jesus Christ?

 

Excellent question, and this question usually surfaces among new Calvinist that struggle with Fatalism (If God is sovereign why try?).

 

https://www.christforums.org/forum/s...ou-should-pray

 

God bless,

William

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Calvinism says we have no inclination to seek God, or as I understand Calvinism, we have no free will to believe or reject Jesus Christ.

 

No that isn't what Calvinism teaches - Calvinism teaches that we are born in a state of rejection (we are sheep that have gone astray) so it isn't a matter have freewill to believe or reject. It is matter of being in position of rejection and being powerless to do anything about it ourselves (we are slaves to sin). We require God to empower us to believe, and we understand that all who God does that for will believe.

 

Faith is not something man contributes to salvation, but is itself a part of God's gift of salvation-it is God's gift to the sinner, not the sinner to man.

 

Partly correct - Faith is a gift of God (Eph 2:8-9) and not something we contribute, however the faith which is given is exercised by the believer to lay hold of the work of Jesus Christ - the distinction between most monogistic and synegergistic systems is not the exercise of faith but the origin of faith.

 

Question; Why pray for the lost, be it for our family, friends, or the lost world? What good is our efforts to pray for the lost when they are not able to reject or accept Jesus Christ? What responsibility do the lost have when they have no choice about Jesus Christ?

 

Can I ask the question the other way - if faith comes from within a person (and not from God) what is the use in praying for a persons salvation? What exactly is God going to do for that person, if he can't give them faith? Hasn't he already done his part?

 

Surely, the monogist who believes that salvation is all a work of God's grace is the only one who can ask God to save sinners and be consistent with their theology. Because I believe God saves people, I ask him to, and because I don't know who is going to save, but I hope he will save those I love, I pray for them in the hope that God will save them and in the knowledge that all that he does is good and right

 

Every Sunday I stand up in a pulpit and I preach the gospel - and every Sunday I see the same people leave the chapel seemingly unaffected by the gospel, others I see come in and after only a few sermons that are asking for baptism - why that difference? But a more important question in regards to those that leave unmoved - how could I live myself knowing that my words haven't been good enough to convince them that they need to trust in Jesus? Thankfully that isn't a weight any preacher has to bear, as long as I have proclaimed the gospel as faithfully as I am able I can trust the Holy Spirit to use those words as God determines.

 

 

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Hi @justme, quite a few years ago, I heard this book recommended to someone and I found it quite helpful. I think it does a good job of addressing some of the questions you have mantioned. And, (in my opinion) it's hard to go wrong with Packer! https://www.amazon.com/Evangelism-Sovereignty-God-J-Packer/dp/083083799X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1520513915&sr=1-1&keywords=packer+evangelism+and+the+sovereignty+of+god

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