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I Want To Suffer MORE for Jesus Christ

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I have suffered every day for the last 33 years; I want to suffer for the Gospel even more.

 

 

 

Romans 5:3-5 King James Version (KJV)

 

3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

 

4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

 

5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

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There is a difference between knowing that our trials work for our spiritual favor, and asking for trouble so we can grow spiritually. Then there is that old saying: Be careful what you ask for. Why don't you just let God handle His part while we apply the word to our lives.

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Hello, nice to meet you.

 

1 Corinthians 3:6-9 King James Version (KJV)

6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye

 

God our father, my increase in faith is because of God, I am who I am because of that.

 

 

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The thought of our enemies holding us prostrate with a knife to our throats telling us to recant of our faith. The thought of our head being slowly sawed off by a small knife is enough to make any of us think twice. However, I am reminded that even Christ our Lord needed strengthening in the Garden of Gethsemane when He asked may this cup pass from him.

 

Nobody in their right mind wants to suffer.

 

God bless,

William

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Living godly in Christ Jesus will bring trials and tribulations and suffering enough without having to look for suffering.

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@christs-love -- in what way would you say you've suffered every day for the past 33 yrs.?

 

 

I suffered in my flesh.

 

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@christs-love -- in what way would you say you've suffered every day for the past 33 yrs.?

 

 

I suffered in my flesh.

Could you explain more specifically what you mean?

 

We're All human. Do you have a specific medical condition? problem?

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@christs-love -- in what way would you say you've suffered every day for the past 33 yrs.?

 

 

I suffered in my flesh.

Your bio information says nothing about your age, gender, etc. so 'suffering' could mean Anything.

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When you say you have suffered for 33 years, and then later clarify you suffer in the flesh I would like to concur with you on that, as I too suffer and the correct term is denying our self, crucifying the flesh and this is what it means to follow Christ.

Then there is the persecution aspect of living out our faith. Where suffering is usually part of this.

And thirdly there is the trials, and tribulations that we will go through to refine us which grows us up and strengthens our faith.

I appreciate your desire to suffer, but be careful if I may caution you as another has already said.

Suffering comes in our serious walks in Christ, but this should not be our goal.

Loving God with our whole heart mind and soul and our neighbor as ourself is

Doing all that Christ commands and following Him involves the Loving Him.

Bless you in your devotion to Christ

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When you say you have suffered for 33 years, and then later clarify you suffer in the flesh I would like to concur with you on that, as I too suffer and the correct term is denying our self, crucifying the flesh and this is what it means to follow Christ.

Then there is the persecution aspect of living out our faith. Where suffering is usually part of this.

And thirdly there is the trials, and tribulations that we will go through to refine us which grows us up and strengthens our faith.

I appreciate your desire to suffer, but be careful if I may caution you as another has already said.

Suffering comes in our serious walks in Christ, but this should not be our goal.

Loving God with our whole heart mind and soul and our neighbor as ourself is

Doing all that Christ commands and following Him involves the Loving Him.

Bless you in your devotion to Christ

You're referring to 'christs-love' comment. That poster's bio gives no insite as to their sex, age or Anything. And he/she hasn't yet responded back as to what they mean by 'suffering in the flesh'. If I may ask You, in what aspect do You suffer / crucifying the flesh -- you're married and a woman and approx. 50 -- I'm nearly 70.

 

I agree with the rest of y our comments. That suffering should Not be our goal , because that Could be seen as some form of 'good work' on our part.

 

If someone is determined to stand on their street corner and read from Leviticus very loudly to make sure Everyone can hear them 'reading God's Word' , but people get annoyed and call the police. That person is Really disturbing the peace and making a public nuscence of themselves. When they end up in jail , they are not 'suffering for Christ', they are making a fool of themselves and turning people Off.

 

Where as if a person has accepted Christ as their Savior, are trying to read their Bible and pray at home in a quiet way and get kicked out, then They Are suffering for Christ. Their flesh is being kicked out of their home and possibly into danger. And in some families -- when a person is choosing to be baptized -- an outward demonstration of what they believe in their heart -- they Will be kicked out and disowned. That is suffering.

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The core of the Christian faith is to know, understand and walk in the Spirit. You cannot walk in the spirit and at the same time walk in the flesh. This is what Christ was referring to when he said that anyone who wants to follow him must first be one who deny’s himself and takes up his cross daily. What are we to deny? Our flesh. What are we to crucify? Our flesh. The flesh as it is referred to in scripture is our adamic sinful nature that seeks to serve self. The Spirit is at enmity with this because it wants to serve God.

 

An example of suffering in this way could be:

When I hear about someone slandering and spreading lies about me, I do not set out to justify myself or set them straight this is what my flesh demands. Instead I trust that God knows the truth and He is the one who is my defender. I first submit to him and will listen and study the word in all that I do regarding the matter. That will involve blessing this person and forgiving and this is done through the Spirit among other things. In this process, I continue to crucify the desires in me that may arise of retaliation, self pity etc. And cling to the truth.

As I I lay aside my desire to be justified, to be right and to have good standing with others- this is where I suffer.

Forgiving the offender when your heart is broken and all that screams at you to hate them - I suffer as I humble myself. Perhaps I lose a job because of the slander, I do not talk badly about the person, but ask Gods blessing upon them while I am faced with the challenge of no income, I suffer in my silence.

the suffering is not necessarily what happens to us but what we do not give place to; anger, retaliation, grudge, self pity, gossip and on goes the list.

 

 

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Sue D.

The core of the Christian faith is to know, understand and walk in the Spirit. You cannot walk in the spirit and at the same time walk in the flesh. This is what Christ was referring to when he said that anyone who wants to follow him must first be one who deny’s himself and takes up his cross daily. What are we to deny? Our flesh. What are we to crucify? Our flesh. The flesh as it is referred to in scripture is our adamic sinful nature that seeks to serve self. The Spirit is at enmity with this because it wants to serve God.

 

An example of suffering in this way could be:

When I hear about someone slandering and spreading lies about me, I do not set out to justify myself or set them straight this is what my flesh demands. Instead I trust that God knows the truth and He is the one who is my defender. I first submit to him and will listen and study the word in all that I do regarding the matter. That will involve blessing this person and forgiving and this is done through the Spirit among other things. In this process, I continue to crucify the desires in me that may arise of retaliation, self pity etc. And cling to the truth.

As I I lay aside my desire to be justified, to be right and to have good standing with others- this is where I suffer.

Forgiving the offender when your heart is broken and all that screams at you to hate them - I suffer as I humble myself. Perhaps I lose a job because of the slander, I do not talk badly about the person, but ask Gods blessing upon them while I am faced with the challenge of no income, I suffer in my silence.

the suffering is not necessarily what happens to us but what we do not give place to; anger, retaliation, grudge, self pity, gossip and on goes the list.

 

A person Can know, understand and walk in the Spirit in a very Positive way.

 

If someone was spreading lies about me / slandering me , I Would try to set them straight. In the New Testament, Paul had no problem setting the governing people straight about his Roman citizenship. Yes, Christ Is our defender. But there's no reason to be a 'doormat'. Take a stand For the truth. You're married -- what would your husband do / say if someone were spreading lies about you or the two of you?

 

There would be a proper way To set the record straight. Using firmness in a calm manner not in anger. Scripture Does say that there are times for 'righteous anger'.

 

Why should we suffer in Silence.

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The core of the Christian faith is to know, understand and walk in the Spirit. You cannot walk in the spirit and at the same time walk in the flesh. This is what Christ was referring to when he said that anyone who wants to follow him must first be one who deny’s himself and takes up his cross daily. What are we to deny? Our flesh. What are we to crucify? Our flesh. The flesh as it is referred to in scripture is our adamic sinful nature that seeks to serve self. The Spirit is at enmity with this because it wants to serve God.

 

An example of suffering in this way could be:

When I hear about someone slandering and spreading lies about me, I do not set out to justify myself or set them straight this is what my flesh demands. Instead I trust that God knows the truth and He is the one who is my defender. I first submit to him and will listen and study the word in all that I do regarding the matter. That will involve blessing this person and forgiving and this is done through the Spirit among other things. In this process, I continue to crucify the desires in me that may arise of retaliation, self pity etc. And cling to the truth.

As I I lay aside my desire to be justified, to be right and to have good standing with others- this is where I suffer.

Forgiving the offender when your heart is broken and all that screams at you to hate them - I suffer as I humble myself. Perhaps I lose a job because of the slander, I do not talk badly about the person, but ask Gods blessing upon them while I am faced with the challenge of no income, I suffer in my silence.

the suffering is not necessarily what happens to us but what we do not give place to; anger, retaliation, grudge, self pity, gossip and on goes the list.

 

We are do be different from how everyone else (the unbelieving world) responds as we read in scripture.

Jesus explains this well in his sermon on the mount particularly in Mat 5:11; “Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake.

Matt 5:38-40 ; You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also.

Matt 5:43-48; You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

 

Christ was crucified because of slander. He did not spend his time in front of rulers to clear his name. We are to be his examples and follow as he walked.

How can one walk in the spirit in a negative way I wonder as you have referred?

The desire to ‘set them straight’ you say is how you would respond, and that we are not to be doormats. The priority is not to be about setting anyone straight, or becoming a doormat - as a follower of Christ - although I did not say that I would not respond to the situation I said that I submitted to the Lord and searching the scriptures on how I need to deal with the matter.

Taking a stand for the truth is not what the bible teaches. Taking a stand for Christ – this is what I am explaining on how we do this.

I have had slander, and gossip and lies spread about me. I submitted it to the Lord, I suffered the pain (to my pride, my reputation, my rights, my job) and instead chose to take up Christ – and what He says and walked in His way. It was the narrow way, and the most beautiful way that lead me to life and freedom. this is what I call the ultimate positive.

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The thought of our enemies holding us prostrate with a knife to our throats telling us to recant for our faith. The thought of our head being slowly sawed off by a small knife is enough to make any of us think twice. However, I am reminded that even Christ our Lord needed strengthening in the Garden of Gethsemane when He asked may this cup pass from him.

 

Nobody in their right mind wants to suffer.

 

God bless,

William

Of course, we could claim to recant our faith, get called liars and get decapitated anyway. There was a Western convert to Islam who wound up getting his head torn off of his body despite his Muslim faith. His mother even wore a hijab in her video pleading with the terrorists who murdered her son to spare his life. They killed him without a second thought. He was American, therefore he was dead.

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Sue D.

The core of the Christian faith is to know, understand and walk in the Spirit. You cannot walk in the spirit and at the same time walk in the flesh. This is what Christ was referring to when he said that anyone who wants to follow him must first be one who deny’s himself and takes up his cross daily. What are we to deny? Our flesh. What are we to crucify? Our flesh. The flesh as it is referred to in scripture is our adamic sinful nature that seeks to serve self. The Spirit is at enmity with this because it wants to serve God.

 

An example of suffering in this way could be:

When I hear about someone slandering and spreading lies about me, I do not set out to justify myself or set them straight this is what my flesh demands. Instead I trust that God knows the truth and He is the one who is my defender. I first submit to him and will listen and study the word in all that I do regarding the matter. That will involve blessing this person and forgiving and this is done through the Spirit among other things. In this process, I continue to crucify the desires in me that may arise of retaliation, self pity etc. And cling to the truth.

As I I lay aside my desire to be justified, to be right and to have good standing with others- this is where I suffer.

Forgiving the offender when your heart is broken and all that screams at you to hate them - I suffer as I humble myself. Perhaps I lose a job because of the slander, I do not talk badly about the person, but ask Gods blessing upon them while I am faced with the challenge of no income, I suffer in my silence.

the suffering is not necessarily what happens to us but what we do not give place to; anger, retaliation, grudge, self pity, gossip and on goes the list.

 

One more comment for the time being -- Jesus Christ was Meant to be crucified. He was considered to be a blasphemer because He claimed to be the Son of God. "I and My Father are One." He was setting the people straight as to who He was. He Gave His life for us. His entire purpose was to die for our sins and rise again bodily. Direct us to The Father.

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Sue D.

@Sherlin -- John 14:6 Jesus Christ is saying "I am the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father, but by Me."

 

And 'Thou shalt not bear false witness" part of the Ten Commandments.

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King James Bible Ephesians 6:12

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

I was attacked by the above severely, I was perversely addicted to porn, though my sin that’s how spiritual forces of evil was able to attack me.

 

Constantly tempting me sexually I suffered in my flesh, I had a demonic serpent of evil I could feel it wrapped around my body, Satan I was chained to him because of my sin, chained to him in fear, terror for 30 years. I wanted to die.

 

Revelation 2:10 King James Bible

Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

 

 

 

 

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King James Bible Ephesians 6:12

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

I was attacked by the above severely, I was perversely addicted to porn, though my sin that’s how spiritual forces of evil was able to attack me.

 

Constantly tempting me sexually I suffered in my flesh, I had a demonic serpent of evil I could feel it wrapped around my body, Satan I was chained to him because of my sin, chained to him in fear, terror for 30 years. I wanted to die.

 

Revelation 2:10 King James Bible

Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

 

 

 

Obviously you're attached to the KJV . Satan Does know our weaknesses. And porn Is very addictive. Because of the cross -- no one Needs to be a 'slave' to Anything -- including porn. For 30 yrs. Apparently you've recently come to Christ? and apparently you feel a need to 'suffer' because of that? Porn comes in various forms and can be destructive to relationships / marriages. Do you have a filter on your computer so that those kinds of sites will be blocked to you? Are you in a Bible study for men or women - since your bio info does state anything about you. Are you meeting regularly with someone who is your accountability partner? Accountable for how you're spending your time? About your thought life? And there's a book called 'Inside Out" by Dr. Larry Crabb.

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I’m not addicted to porn now I am healed by Jesus, my computer I will never ever go on another porn site as long as I live, I’m not in a bible study at the moment, but I have been in them in the past, the only trouble is with these bible studies, with these people there is no such thing as sin, they never talk about what it is, I myself I hate sin, I know on this site you cannot talk about visions, but when I was in prayer, after I could recognise sin whereby before I was blind to it.

 

When I was born again, the gift I was given by God was the gift of discernment of spirits. I love Jesus more than I love anybody else on earth.

 

Can I just tell you something, when that serpent wrapped around my body, I had an angel come to give me a message to help me, if I would have done what this angel told me to do I would have never suffered.

Another person came to me and said to me do not be afraid they cart harm you and they know that so don’t worry. Those words were true no harm ever came to me.

 

 

 

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Well, I know that the Apostle Paul said, "I die daily for Christ", meaning it's a constant battle every day between the flesh and Spirit of the Lord. Paul had a very high calling on his life from God and not one that we're all called to that often in this life. God also places a lot of responsibility on those called to be teachers and preachers, but God also said that there's a severe punishment for leading the sheep astray. So before anyone truly believes that God has called them to do this and they go around calling themselves "teacher or preacher", they had better have had three dreams and a vision (sarcasm) before they venture out attempting to be and do something God didn't actually call them to do. I certainly wouldn't want to have to answer for that mistake. We have all seen many false preachers and teachers fall very hard in this life, not to mention what God will do once they're done in this life, very scary.

 

Best to read the word, pray in the Holy Spirit and only do what the Spirit leads one to do, that way, we don't get in trouble doing something God didn't actually call us to do.

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I’m not addicted to porn now I am healed by Jesus, my computer I will never ever go on another porn site as long as I live, I’m not in a bible study at the moment, but I have been in them in the past, the only trouble is with these bible studies, with these people there is no such thing as sin, they never talk about what it is, I myself I hate sin, I know on this site you cannot talk about visions, but when I was in prayer, after I could recognise sin whereby before I was blind to it.

 

When I was born again, the gift I was given by God was the gift of discernment of spirits. I love Jesus more than I love anybody else on earth.

 

Can I just tell you something, when that serpent wrapped around my body, I had an angel come to give me a message to help me, if I would have done what this angel told me to do I would have never suffered.

Another person came to me and said to me do not be afraid they cart harm you and they know that so don’t worry. Those words were true no harm ever came to me.

 

 

What kind of Bible studies had you gone To. Were they in the form of a support group? If those study groups don't acknowledge sin, then they aren't Bible oriented.

 

Your last paragraph is what you yourself said that a person should NOT be talking about on this site. You're sounding a bit confused.

 

Porn has a way of coming back to haunt a person. It gets into our minds.

 

Your opening comment was that you want to suffer More for Jesus. Why not simply read His Word and follow that. Don't purposely Try to be suffering. That mind-set Could become a 'badge of honor'. "Just look how much I'm "suffering."

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Well, I know that the Apostle Paul said, "I die daily for Christ", meaning it's a constant battle every day between the flesh and Spirit of the Lord. Paul had a very high calling on his life from God and not one that we're all called to that often in this life. God also places a lot of responsibility on those called to be teachers and preachers, but God also said that there's a severe punishment for leading the sheep astray. So before anyone truly believes that God has called them to do this and they go around calling themselves "teacher or preacher", they had better have had three dreams and a vision (sarcasm) before they venture out attempting to be and do something God didn't actually call them to do. I certainly wouldn't want to have to answer for that mistake. We have all seen many false preachers and teachers fall very hard in this life, not to mention what God will do once they're done in this life, very scary.

 

Best to read the word, pray in the Holy Spirit and only do what the Spirit leads one to do, that way, we don't get in trouble doing something God didn't actually call us to do.

Yes, teaching and preaching Are big responsibilities. Others can usually tell that a person has a calling for preaching / teaching. It will be a desire on their part. There will be a desire to study and share what they're learning and have a gift for explaining it to others.

 

Shouldn't Every believer have a desire to learn God's Word and share it with others? The only "mistake' would be teaching other than what's in God's Word. Jesus Christ and Him crucified and risen again bodily.

 

"Pray in the Holy Spirit" -- a person prays to God through Jesus Christ our mediator between us and God. At times we don't know how to pray so the Holy Spirit intervenes for us.

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Yes Sue, I agree that every believer should have the desire to learn and share with others, but I believe it's much different when one is a spiritual leader to a flock or congregation who have the power to influence so many at the same time. We are all called to be ministers in Christ as the word says, but it's my belief that more Christians desire to be shepherds when actually they're still young sheep needing to be led. Graduating from seminary does not translate into "being called to be spiritual leaders", but today we have many standing behind a pulpit unintentionally leading the sheep astray. I feel this is one of the biggest problem in our churches today. I also feel this happens more often with the larger church orgs than the small ones.

 

Another problem I see in many large churches now are those taking federal dollars for promoting refugee programs, which has also become a very large problem in this country because many of these refugees being sponsored through the major church orgs have not been vetted properly. This all begins with the spiritual leaders of these churches doing this. Almost every major Christian denomination and even the Jewish are cashing in on this. These refugees are sponsored through the churches, then farmed out into communities where then they're either placed in private homes, hotels or other that also get paid state and federal dollars for taking them in. On top of this problem, these refugees, some who have ten children in tow, also receive a monthly stipend depending on how many are in their families while still collecting welfare, food stamps and getting free healthcare, all at the taxpayers expense. I don't believe this is how our Lord wants Christian leaders to run their churches when it affects so many others left holding the bag. This isn't charity, this is big profit for the churches.

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I want to suffer for the Gospel even more.

 

Heb 5:8 Although He (Jesus) was a son, He learned obedience through what He suffered.

Being God He knew what suffering is, but He came to know it by experience.

 

Rom 8:17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with Him in order that we may also be glorified with Him. Is that so we may become fellow heirs instead of just getting to heaven?

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