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What’s the Difference Between Heresy and Orthodoxy?

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While we may be in a “post”-postmodern world, there are still many people who resist objective truth claims, particularly when these claims are moral or metaphysical in nature. Is anything objectively true, or is everything simply a matter of perspective and opinion? Christianity, as a worldview, rejects relativism. The Christian worldview makes specific claims about the character of God, the person of Jesus and the nature of Salvation. These truths are grounded and described in the Bible, and while we may not always agree on tangential issues, some truths are simply not negotiable. Some views about Jesus, for example, are true, and some views are false.

 

The earliest believers felt so strongly about the exclusive nature of truth (and were so convinced the scriptures taught objective facts about the nature of God, Jesus and Salvation) they declared these truths in a number of creeds. These believers rejected the notion of a theological smorgasbord, arguing, instead, for a number of minimum objective truths. Those who rejected these minimum truths were called heretics because they embraced inaccurate choices. The word “heresy” comes from the Greek word “hairesis”.

 

Heresy = Hairesis (Greek) = Choice

 

A word once describing choice is now accepted as a term conferring error and inaccuracy. This seems to reflect the exclusive nature of objective truth. Let me give you an example. Imagine picking an apple from a tree. As we begin to identify the fruit with a single word, how many options do we have? To be accurate, we would have to say, “This is an apple.” Do we have other accurate choices? Could we say, for example, “This is an orange” or “This is a cantaloupe”? No, if we want to be precise in our one word description, we don’t have a lot of choices; only one word describes the fruit. Heresies are inaccurate choices in light of non-negotiable realities:

 

“Heresy is an opinion or doctrine in philosophy, politics, science, art, etc., at variance with those generally accepted as authoritative” (Oxford English Dictionary)

 

Heresies are incorrect choices, based on some generally accepted authority. From a Christian perspective, heresies are claims contradicting the clear objective truths described in the Bible. Irenaeus (the ancient apologist and disciple of Ignatius and Polycarp) made careful distinctions between heresies and apostolic truth. In “Against Heresies”, Irenaeus laid out the heretical claims of some of his errant contemporaries, and compared these claims to the truths he had been taught by Polycarp (the disciple of the Apostle John). Irenaeus referred to his own beliefs as “orthodox”. This word is derived from two Greek root words:

 

Orthodox = Ortho (Right) + Dox (Belief)

 

In essence, Irenaeus used the word to describe those beliefs supported by the apostolic, Biblical teaching. The idea of a “right belief” presumes there are objectively accurate Christian truths, and the Bible is the authority upon which we discover these “right beliefs”. Like all humans, Christians ground truths in an authoritative text. We’re not alone in this approach to truth, by the way. As an atheist, I grounded my beliefs in the texts of scientists I accepted as authoritative (even though I had never performed experiments or conducted research on my own). Everyone bases their beliefs in authoritative texts of one kind or another; not every truth can be verified by of some empirical experiment or observation.

 

The authoritative text of the Bible is the standard by which Christians must ultimately measure and assess claims about God, Jesus, and Salvation. When our views are aligned with the teaching of Scripture, we are said to be orthodox; we possess “right beliefs”. When we choose options other than those described in Scripture, we are said to be heretical; we’ve chosen heresies. In both cases, our accuracy is determined by the authoritative text of scripture, rather than our own biased opinions. That’s why it’s so important to become good Christian Case Makers. Sometimes we’ll need to make a case for Christianity to an unbelieving world; sometimes we’ll need to make a case for orthodoxy to a misbelieving Church.

 

Source: http://coldcasechristianity.com/2014/whats-the-difference-between-heresy-and-orthodoxy/

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Greatest I am

Greetings.

 

Orthodox is just the most accepted view. Heresy is just a competing view.

 

You spoke of objective and subjective moral views.

 

Many Christians think that there are some objective moral truths that God has given us but I have yet to find one of those that were and thus see all moral tenets as subjective.

 

Can you give what you think is an objective moral tenet?

 

 

"The authoritative text of the Bible"

 

I had a good chuckle on those words.

 

How much authority should we give to a book that only has 4 gospels when the reason for just 4 is that there are only 4 seasons and 4 main compass points. I think it ludicrous to give the bible, a consolidation of many belief systems, authority. Myths and allegories are to be studied for their many ways of looking at things. Not given authority for anything.

 

Take Eden for instance, Jews, the original authors, say it as where man was elevated. Christians see a fall.

 

If we were to give the Jews their rightful authority as authors, Christian would have to scrap their Original sin concept and follow the actual bible which says that there is no such thing as Original sin.

 

That aside. I dislike sending us off topic.

 

What objective moral tenet do you know of?

 

Regards

DL

 

 

 

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How much authority should we give to a book that only has 4 gospels when the reason for just 4 is that there are only 4 seasons and 4 main compass points.

 

Why do you think that is the reason?

 

Take Eden for instance, Jews, the original authors, say it as where man was elevated. Christians see a fall.

 

Do you have any evidence that this is what Jews believe?

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Why do you think that is the reason?

 

Because that is the reason Irenaeus gave and he is the one who decided on the four gospels.

 

Do you have any evidence that this is what Jews believe?

 

Yes. They have no Original sin concept as they did not think passing their sin up to their children was kosher as they would have had to ignore this wisdom the way Christians have to.

 

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

 

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

 

Ezekiel 18:20 (ESV) The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

 

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/...tive-theodicy/

 

‘Instead of the Fall of man (in the sense of humanity as a whole), Judaism preaches the Rise of man: and instead of Original Sin, it stresses Original Virtue, the beneficent hereditary influence of righteous ancestors upon their descendants’.

 

Regards

DL

 

 

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