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Does America have any right to ambush North Korea?

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America is an economic giant and a millitary super power and what north korea is trying to do is unâcceptable. ​​​​all in all, i feel that America should keep off and let United Nations handle that. It feels fair when an unbiased party deals with the issue.

 

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The United Nations handled North Korea's first assault on South Korea and while they were stopped they weren't deprived of power. General Douglas MacArthur felt we should fight to destroy N. Korea's power and President Truman dismissed him from his position of command. If we had followed his advice we probably wouldn't be faced with our present problems.

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+1 for a preemptive strike.

 

God bless,

William

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America is an economic giant and a millitary super power and what north korea is trying to do is unâcceptable. ​​​​all in all, i feel that America should keep off and let United Nations handle that. It feels fair when an unbiased party deals with the issue.

 

Who is this "unbiased party" you refer to?

 

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+1 for a preemptive strike.

 

God bless,

William

 

I agree. North Korea's capabilities are accelerating. To let it continue while doing nothing is absurd.

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Preemptive strikes would be wise, but I think if the strike is military in nature it could trigger and ugly chain reaction in the area. Much as people bash Kim Jong Un for being juvenile, he made sure to tap into every little geopolitical 'hole' he could find. Which means, if the USA were to make a move into the peninsula (as what happened with the navy that was recently dispatched there and immediately turned away), N.Korea can obliterate Seoul overnight.

 

While it wouldn't be a direct hit into USA territory, it would implicate the USA internationally for instigating a turmoil in an area completely out of its interests, which is a heavy taboo for the United Nations, who would then impose commercial sanctions, etc.

 

The situation needs to deflate as quickly as possible, just not in the "raw offensive" assertion that USA is used to implementing. There's many non-military solutions available that'll do the trick.

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With China and Russia as members of the P5 very little will be done to stop North Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_members_of_the_United_Nations_Security_Council

 

In fact, if it wasn't for the help from China (both during the Korean War as well as right now) there would be no North Korea today.

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Preemptive strikes would be wise, but I think if the strike is military in nature it could trigger and ugly chain reaction in the area. Much as people bash Kim Jong Un for being juvenile, he made sure to tap into every little geopolitical 'hole' he could find. Which means, if the USA were to make a move into the peninsula (as what happened with the navy that was recently dispatched there and immediately turned away), N.Korea can obliterate Seoul overnight.

 

While it wouldn't be a direct hit into USA territory, it would implicate the USA internationally for instigating a turmoil in an area completely out of its interests, which is a heavy taboo for the United Nations, who would then impose commercial sanctions, etc.

 

The situation needs to deflate as quickly as possible, just not in the "raw offensive" assertion that USA is used to implementing. There's many non-military solutions available that'll do the trick.

 

Maybe I am wrong, so I'll leave it to the experts. But I view North Korea like a historical Japan. Given the amount of brain-washing in North Korea, and the readiness from its military, I think every North Korean man, woman, and child are going to fight. I do not think we'd win a ground battle without unprecidented casualties, and is why all military exercises conducted with the United States there ends in a Nuclear solution. For the same reasons we dropped the atomic bombs on Japan I think that option poses a more realistic approach to North Korea. When you go into a land and all the inhabitants are willing to fight down to every man, woman, and child then that limits our military options. Question is, can we blast the peninsula clean before they can press the button?

 

God bless,

William

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Question is, can we blast the peninsula clean before they can press the button?

 

My humble opinion (I'm not an expert either) is that even if N. Korea is carpet-bombed with nukes, it still might not be enough, because they might shelter themselves quickly enough to launch a counter-attack for whatever measly half lives they'll have left due to the radiation levels. The moment an aircraft or missile breaches their airspace, people will be ordered to take shelter and there will be attempts to blow the aircraft of missile in the air before it reaches too close to Pyonyang. Remember, radiation takes a while to act, and if any high ranked official survives e.g. in bunkers, they can press the button to launch their own missiles. Their weapons might not make it to the heart of the USA but they'd reach bases that are situated in nearby areas, crippling the military situated there, until they regroup (they wouldn't hesitate sending their troops in radioactive fields either, escallating the situation in a Vietnam-like stalemate).

 

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America is an economic giant and a millitary super power and what north korea is trying to do is unâcceptable. ​​​​all in all, i feel that America should keep off and let United Nations handle that. It feels fair when an unbiased party deals with the issue.

 

It is almost hilarious to consider the UN being able to do anything. With the rise of liberalism and wanting to talk everything to death, there is no way that organization will ever get around to do anything but impose sanctions. Which they have already done.

 

No, it really is the responsibility of China and/or Russia to deal the spoiled brat they have for a neighbor before his scientists accidentally build a rocket that does more than explode on take-off.

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No, it really is the responsibility of China and/or Russia to deal the spoiled brat they have for a neighbor before his scientists accidentally build a rocket that does more than explode on take-off.

 

I wonder what kind of headache Kim is for them. We're sweatdropping miles away and they are right next to him. Whenever anything goes wrong in the tests, the fallout will reach their coastlines and farmlands...Must be a Tuesday.

Either way last time I checked China and Russia are trying to avoid direct confrontation, but their little minion isn't making this very easy for them.

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It is almost hilarious to consider the UN being able to do anything.

 

I thought the same thing, but then hesitated because I felt that typing out ROFL would be rude.

 

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William

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What's this big brouhaha over North Korea? Kim is just enjoying himself playing his little games. The underlying fact is that Kim is making himself look large, like how a human should do if they are confronted by a bear or lion. Therefore he is appearing to loom large because he fears that at some time the US may want to go at him. It's well known that the US wouldn't mind Korea being one nation.

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His "little games" include firing missiles near Japan which puts millions of lives in jeopardy.

It's also well known that North Korea wouldn't mind the peninsula being one nation - of course run by North Korea.

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I believe America has rights to attack North Korea because it is a country that is threat to the world. Not just America but any country that has military prowess to execute North Korea can attack North Korea and remove the North Korea leader from the power, terminate the Communist rule and establish democracy in the country. North Korea is not just a rouge state but also a country ruled by a lunatic.

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The tension right now between America and North Korea is quite serious and intense, and both countries should consider their every move since one small mistake can infuse a war which will affect numerous countries and will to a great loss of lives.

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Technically, the US is still at war with North Korea. We currently have no 'Peace Treaty' in place, only a 'ceace fire'. US and South Korean troops still patrol the border with armed weapons and occasionally exchange shots across 'no mans land'.

 

The US has every LEGAL right to resume fighting the Korean War at any time ... like the moment they get tired of a man detonating nuclear warheads and working on building an ICBM threatening to fire on mainland USA as soon as he is able.

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The United Nations has been a farce since they started this money eating organization.

They should shut it down Nothing good has come out of it.

 

The United States should find a way to bomb this guy and his generals.

Do the North Koreans a favour and get them out.

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I remember during 1964 to 1978 those who favored war seldom had young men in the war. Often those men who somehow escaped being drafted, by running to Canada, or having someone who knew someone on the draft board and being unacceptable for the draft.

 

Frankly unless a person is willing to send their son or daughter to war its best to hope a pre-emptive strike never happens, and North Korea submit to China and its requests.

 

War kills young men that just graduate from high school. I saw over 50% of my High school young men killed. I still see many men my age that somehow got out of the draft.

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@justme

 

I agree.

The original question was did the US have a right to attack. I answered that to the best of my ability in stating that as far as I know, the US and North Korea are still at war (under a current cease-fire, but not a peace treaty), so the answer is 'YES' we have a right to resume the Korean War at any time (as do they).

 

Do I think we should or will?

NO.

 

1. North Korea is ruled by a despot, but not a madman. Looking at the world from his perspective, the US has a long history of making deals to disarm dictators, then changing presidents and toppling those same dictators that we made deals with. Can anyone find Lybia and Iraq and Syria on a map? I bet the leader of North Korea can tell you all about the history of US involvement in those countries. Kim wants a magic wand that will protect him FROM the US. Right or wrong, he believes that the ability to launch a nuclear ICBM to the US mainland is essential to his survival.

 

2. Donald Trump is not an idiot, he only tweets like one. Seriously, the man plays to the public and for public consumption and may have any number of personality flaws (although a student of history would be hard pressed to find an area in which he is actually the worst we have ever had). So what is it that the US ultimately wants? What does a President Trump want? The second Bush had something to prove in the Middle East ... unfinished family business. Does Trump or the US have unfinished business with North Korea? Do we really want to fight a land war on the Korean Peninsula so we can see the economy of South Korea destroyed while we attempt a land war with China over control of the starving population of a ruined economy of North Korea?

 

3. China generally finds N Korea a P.I.T.A. ally, but they are not US forces and bases sitting on the Chinese border. That is what a United Korea under the control of the South Korean government would be. So China will not, cannot allow a US victory to overthrow the N Korean government and unite the two Koreas.

 

 

So let's summarize, North Korea really just wants to feel safe and survive. South Korea wishes to avoid being bombed into the ruin that is North Korea. China cannot afford any major political change. The US has everything to loose and nothing to gain in a conflict.

 

So what is the most likely thing to happen? Nothing. Kim will make threats and beat his chest to show he is strong while he builds the weapons to make him feel safe from US attack. They US will threaten and protest and the UN will issue leaky sanctions. Trumps will tweet and the press will present doomsday scenarios to sell papers.

 

So what if a nuclear Korea joins a Nuclear Pakistan and whoever else. It bankrupted the USSR, it is a staggering drain on the US economy. If more nations want to go broke building and maintaining single use, unusable weapon systems. So what?

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What are the serious options?

China wil not allow US forces and outposts on their border, so any option that puts US boots in North Korea places Chinese boots in North Korea to push them out.

 

Any attack will be met with the destruction of most of South Korea from North Korean artillery.

 

All this assumes complete destruction of all missiles and nuclear warheads in the first strike.

(If not, then Japan and anywhere a N.Korean submarine can reach may be nuked)

 

Will this trigger a cyber-war with China?

Are we ready to loose our power grid and telecom services?

 

I do not believe that doing nothing is the best option, I just think that all other options are far worse.

 

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Any attack will be met with the destruction of most of South Korea from North Korean artillery.

 

Their artillery will be destroyed very fast by the Americans.

By firing they will reveal where they are, they can't move very fast.

No doubt they will do a lot of damage, but their artillery range is not further than 40 miles.

These days artillery represents outdated equipment.

They would have to fire rockets in order to destroy the south.

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