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John Calvin puts forward a very simple reason why love is the greatest gift: “Because faith and hope are our own: love is diffused among others.” In other words, faith and hope benefit the possessor, but love always benefits another. In John 13:34–35 Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Love always requires an “other” as an object; love cannot remain within itself, and that is part of what makes love the greatest gift.
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Do you understand this verse?(Revelation1:8)

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I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.(Revelation1:8)

God is the Beginning and the End; God is the Sower and the Reaper.God has only one . God becomes flesh expressly for the purpose of ushering in a new age,and, of course, when He ushers in a new age, He has concluded the former age at the same time.Now in the last days , God decends among man, and save man from influence of Satan.

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I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.(Revelation1:8)

God is the Beginning and the End; God is the Sower and the Reaper.God has only one . God becomes flesh expressly for the purpose of ushering in a new age,and, of course, when He ushers in a new age, He has concluded the former age at the same time.Now in the last days , God decends among man, and save man from influence of Satan.

 

Jesus is God the Father come in the flesh to reconcile us to Himself.

 

Jesus puts us in him and he puts himself in us that is reconciliation.

 

In the Old Testament, God calls HIMSELF THE FIRST AND THE LAST. That is exactly what Jesus calls himself in Revelation!

 

Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the LORD says--Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

 

Isaiah 48:12 "Listen to me, O Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last.

 

JESUS calls HIMSELF the FIRST and the LAST in Revelation 1:17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.

 

Read Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

 

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Jesus is God the Father come in the flesh to reconcile us to Himself.
Is that what you really wanted to say? Perhaps you mean that Jesus is God the Son?

 

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Is that what you really wanted to say? Perhaps you mean that Jesus is God the Son?

 

There is only one God, and He is the Father. Since Jesus is God, then he must also be the one God the Father come in the flesh as a Son.

 

1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father,

 

Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

 

 

Would you like scriptures where Jesus calls himself a father?

 

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There is only one God, and He is the Father. Since Jesus is God, then he must also be the one God the Father come in the flesh as a Son.

 

1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father,

 

Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

 

Would you like scriptures where Jesus calls himself a father?

Sure why not.

 

 

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Sure why not.

 

 

Scriptures that say Jesus is God the Father:

 

See Deuteronomy 32:18. You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgot the God who gave you birth.

 

1 Corinthians 10:4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

 

 

The ROCK that FATHERED them was Christ.

 

Jesus says those who overcome he will be their GOD and they will be his CHILDREN.

 

See Revelation 21:7. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children.

 

 

If we are Jesus' children, then he is our Father.

 

 

John 14:18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

 

Did you read that scripture? Who but a Father will not leave children as orphans?

 

 

Jesus says when you SEE him, you have SEEN the Father.

 

See John 14:7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

 

John 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? John 12:45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me.

 

 

That means when we see Jesus, we can say, "I see the Father."

 

God says Jesus will be called God, Father, and Holy Spirit. So that is what I call Jesus.

 

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

 

Malachi 2:10 Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?

 

 

WHO created them? Jesus did and the scripture calls him the Father.

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Scriptures that say Jesus is God the Father:

 

See Deuteronomy 32:18. You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgot the God who gave you birth.

 

1 Corinthians 10:4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

 

 

The ROCK that FATHERED them was Christ.

 

Jesus says those who overcome he will be their GOD and they will be his CHILDREN.

 

See Revelation 21:7. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children.

 

If we are Jesus' children, then he is our Father.

 

John 14:18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

 

Did you read that scripture? Who but a Father will not leave children as orphans?

 

 

Jesus says when you SEE him, you have SEEN the Father.

 

See John 14:7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

 

John 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? John 12:45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me.

 

That means when we see Jesus, we can say, "I see the Father."

 

God says Jesus will be called God, Father, and Holy Spirit. So that is what I call Jesus.

 

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

 

Malachi 2:10 Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?

 

WHO created them? Jesus did and the scripture calls him the Father.

None of those quotes have Jesus calling himself father. Is that not what you said?

 

 

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1 John 5:7

[7]For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

 

Next time I see a JW...

 

I am not a JW, for I know Jesus is God.

 

There are three, and the three are one and the same.

One even means 'same'.

 

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None of those quotes have Jesus calling himself father. Is that not what you said?

 

 

It does matter what translation you use, if that is your issue; however, all translations say the saved are Jesus' 'children'.

 

Who but a father and mother can rightfully, and legally call someone their child?

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It does matter what translation you use, if that is your issue; however, all translations say the saved are Jesus' 'children'.
I don't use a translation but a Greek N.T.

 

Who but a father and mother can rightfully, and legally call someone their child?
You said you could show me where Jesus refers to himself as Father. Can you do that?

 

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None of those quotes have Jesus calling himself father. Is that not what you said?

 

 

Does not this scripture say the ROCK FATHERED YOU?

 

 

See Deuteronomy 32:18. You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgotthe God who gave you birth.

 

 

Does not this next scripture say that Rock is the Christ?

 

 

1 Corinthians 10:4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

 

 

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Does not this scripture say the ROCK FATHERED YOU?

 

See Deuteronomy 32:18. You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgotthe God who gave you birth.

 

Does not this next scripture say that Rock is the Christ?

 

1 Corinthians 10:4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

That is not what you said. You said Jesus calls himself Father. Can you give a quote from the Bible were Jesus calls himself Father?

 

 

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That is not what you said. You said Jesus calls himself Father. Can you give a quote from the Bible were Jesus calls himself Father?

 

 

The scriptures I gave explain that Jesus fathered us and I gave a scripture were Jesus calls us his children.

 

John 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? John 12:45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me.

See Revelation 21:7. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, andI will be their God and they will be my children.

 

I gave scriptures that plainly show Jesus is the Father.

 

Is Jesus love?

 

You answer that question and show me the scripture.

 

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The scriptures I gave explain that Jesus fathered us and I gave a scripture were Jesus calls us his children.
So the answer is no. You cannot cite a reference where Jesus calls himself Father.

 

 

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Understanding what the church has together believed for millennia concerning the Trinity might be helpful (by "church" I mean Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Protestant, Lutheran, Baptist, etc., IOW, us all). Here's an excerpt from one of the historic creeds ("catholic" means "universal" here, just fyi):

 

The Athanasian Creed

The catholic faith is this: That
we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unit
y;
Neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance
. For
there is one person of the Father
,
another of the Son
, and
another of the Holy Spirit
.

 

But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one, the glory equal, the majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible. The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal. And yet they are not three eternals but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated nor three incomprehensible, but one uncreated and one incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Spirit almighty. And yet they are not three almighties, but one almighty. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God; And yet they are not three Gods, but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord; And yet they are not three Lords but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion to say; There are three Gods or three Lords. The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made nor created, but begotten. The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding. So
there is one Father, not three Fathers
; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits. And in this Trinity none is afore or after another; none is greater or less than another. But the whole three persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity.

 

 

 

--David

 

 

 

"Being full of the Holy Spirit, Stephen gazed intently into heaven

and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing

at the right hand of God"

Acts 7:55

 

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So the answer is no. You cannot cite a reference where Jesus calls himself Father.

 

 

You are wrong, I gave scripture where Jesus tells us he is the Father.

 

Go ahead and explain those scriptures according to you and how they mean Jesus is not the Father.

 

 

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Understanding what the church has together believed for millennia concerning the Trinity might be helpful (by "church" I mean Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Protestant, Lutheran, Baptist, etc., IOW, us all). Here's an excerpt from one of the historic creeds ("catholic" means "universal" here, just fyi):

 

 

--David

 

 

 

 

 

"Being full of the Holy Spirit, Stephen gazed intently into heaven

and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing

at the right hand of God"

Acts 7:55

 

The Holy Bible does not speak about Creeds. I only go by the Holy Bible.

 

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You are wrong, I gave scripture where Jesus tells us he is the Father.
Then answer your own question. Where does Jesus call himself Father?

 

 

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Then answer your own question. Where does Jesus call himself Father?

 

 

I gave you scriptures where he explain that he is. Give your understanding of those scriptures. While you are at it, tell me if Jesus is love, and then show the scripture which says it.

 

 

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I gave you scriptures where he explain that he is.
Again that is not what you said. You said Jesus (subject) calls (verb) himself (reflexive pronoun) Father (object). In other words Jesus himself refers to himself as Father. The fact that you have not cited an example prove there are none. For if you knew of any example of Jesus refers himself Father you would have cited it.

 

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Again that is not what you said. You said Jesus (subject) calls (verb) himself (reflexive pronoun) Father (object). In other words Jesus himself refers to himself as Father. The fact that you have not cited an example prove there are none. For if you knew of any example of Jesus refers himself Father you would have cited it.

 

Don't be argumentative and contrary.

 

You are not speaking the truth , nor will you answer questions or explain your beliefs.

 

If I say I have children, am I to be called the father or mother?

 

If I say you will be my son, does that mean I will be your father?

 

Just answer yes or no.

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In other words Jesus himself refers to himself as Father. The fact that you have not cited an example prove there are none. For if you knew of any example of Jesus refers himself Father you would have cited it.

 

Jesus DOES REFER to himself as Father, and I have proven it with the written Word of God.

 

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Jesus DOES REFER to himself as Father, and I have proven it with the written Word of God.
Oh really! You have given no quotes where Jesus calls himself Father and you know it.

 

 

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