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Transgender People to Openly Serve in the Armed Services

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It was just reported that transgender individuals can now openly serve in the Armed Services. This seems like a sudden change and I can't help but wonder what impact it will have upon those in uniform. The New York Times has details here: Transgender People Will Be Allowed to Serve Openly in Military

 

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I guess that is one way to solve a problem. Not that I am condoning the idea in any way, but if they really want to head overseas and fight, by all means let them. Just don't be surprised about the level of harassment they will encounter. And not just from our military.

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I am not real familiar with the Armed Forces or the culture of said. However, I have to wonder about morale for both cisgendered servicemen/women and transgendered folks. I guess time will tell. It does seem a trifle curious this coming up now with all the chaos overseas (e.g., ISIS, Russian aggression, etc.), but I suppose that is another topic.

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Let them serve in the military. It's just more proof that we are living in the end times. As it was in the days of Noah . . . the earth was corrupt in the eyes of God. History does repeat itself. The same vileness that existed back then is creeping back and when God won't stand it anymore Jesus will be back for His elect.

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Well, I'm not big on calling the End Times, but I hear you Smithee. Things do seem to be getting darker and more confused as the years roll on. The chaos surrounding homosexuality, transgenderism, etc., is a pretty good example of said.

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I don't see anything wrong with Transgender people serving in the military. I think everyone should be able to serve, so long as they can follow the rules and are willing to put forth the effort. There really is nothing wrong with being Transgender. My heart goes out to the people that have to deal with this. I don't think someone would ever choose to be Transgender- it comes with so much hatred. I believe in spreading love and happiness, which means accepting others around me. If a Transgender man or woman wants to participate in the military, then good for them. I am proud to say that they are serving my country and making an effort that I am not willing to make. My heart goes out to our troops- regardless of their gender.

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I'm not really familiar with the Armed Forces but if it's the same as in my home country, transgender people should be allowed to join the military, but let's not forget that there don't seem to be lots of women serving. In my country this is because we aren't allowed to serve (only as doctors and other jobs that have nothing to do with actual physical exercises) so why deal with the transgender problem before even dealing with an issue that affects the majority (which, even if this isn't super moral, is still the most relevant when it comes to a democracy.)

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They can serve, but they should keep their sexual orientation to themselves. It's just like applying for a job. If you qualify physically and mentally, and past basic training, then you should graduate with your class of recruits. People that you work with everyday has skeletons in their closets. Those facts should stay there. Military should be the same. don't ask, don't tell.

 

There are a lot of bigotry in the Military and most of the recruits are still fresh out of High School that have yet to mature. So keep your secret under wraps.

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In the early years I forsee problems with transgenders being beat up. We will not hear of this initially as in the sexual assault cases. There will be lag time between the event and someone speaking up about it.

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In the early years I forsee problems with transgenders being beat up. We will not hear of this initially as in the sexual assault cases. There will be lag time between the event and someone speaking up about it.

 

Oh trust me, they do get beaten up. Witnessed it first hand. The bigotry is uncontrollable and physical altercations happen all the time with recruits that don't pull their weight. There are a lot homosexuals that have gone through a military career and never told anyone about it until after retirement. So the whole "don't ask, don't tell" rule applies here.

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I think we should accept anyone who is willing to fight for our country and put their life at risk. What they do in private shouldn't even have anything to do with their eligibility to be soldiers. Just because one sees their sexual activity as a sin does not mean they should not allowed to do any good in other ways. That's like saying if you wear a fabric made of two different materials you shouldn't be allowed to volunteer at soup kitchens just because the first act is said to be a sin in the Bible. Anyway, God says not to judge others and just leave that up to him.

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They can serve, but they should keep their sexual orientation to themselves.

 

That may prove difficult in the case of those who are transgender. Some it is pretty obvious that the gender they identify with is not the same as their biology. Not all, of course, but it still may be difficult for many to fit in.

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If they can satisfy the requirements to be a soldier, then is should technically be fine. But I have to wonder about the safety of everyone considering most transgenders are on hormones that will ultimately affect their mind and body. It seems like a risk, what happens if their hormones are late or they can't get them, will they get sick? People should be allowed to serve as long as they don't endanger other people.

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That may prove difficult in the case of those who are transgender. Some it is pretty obvious that the gender they identify with is not the same as their biology. Not all, of course, but it still may be difficult for many to fit in.

 

For those that enter the male side of boot camp, and they are flamboyantly gay, they will be beaten up on a daily basis, as most of the recruits are kids out of high school and love to pick on the odd person out. This is what happens in the USA military and I presume it's even worse in other countries.

 

As I said earlier, if you pretend to be straight and live your private life, very privately, you can get away with it. Many guys have done just that. Just go to work and don't be flamboyant.

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For those that enter the male side of boot camp, and they are flamboyantly gay, they will be beaten up on a daily basis, as most of the recruits are kids out of high school and love to pick on the odd person out. This is what happens in the USA military and I presume it's even worse in other countries.

 

As I said earlier, if you pretend to be straight and live your private life, very privately, you can get away with it. Many guys have done just that. Just go to work and don't be flamboyant.

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It would seem as gayness is becoming more accepted, that getting beaten up will decline. There will be biases no doubt. I would not necessarily judge them, but here is the fine line: we know they will be judged accordingly. So did i just judge them? Another topic for that i spose.

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It was just reported that transgender individuals can now openly serve in the Armed Services. This seems like a sudden change and I can't help but wonder what impact it will have upon those in uniform. The New York Times has details here: Transgender People Will Be Allowed to Serve Openly in Military

 

Thoughts?

 

Maybe they should be given rainbow uniforms?

 

 

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I think we should accept anyone who is willing to fight for our country and put their life at risk. What they do in private shouldn't even have anything to do with their eligibility to be soldiers. Just because one sees their sexual activity as a sin does not mean they should not allowed to do any good in other ways. That's like saying if you wear a fabric made of two different materials you shouldn't be allowed to volunteer at soup kitchens just because the first act is said to be a sin in the Bible. Anyway, God says not to judge others and just leave that up to him.

 

Yes Lydia, but soup kitchens and wars are two very different circumstances. Women have now been approved to fight on the front lines. Do you agree with that? Anyone? I disagree. Does that make me a femaleaphobe?

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I'm not really familiar with the Armed Forces but if it's the same as in my home country, transgender people should be allowed to join the military, but let's not forget that there don't seem to be lots of women serving. In my country this is because we aren't allowed to serve (only as doctors and other jobs that have nothing to do with actual physical exercises) so why deal with the transgender problem before even dealing with an issue that affects the majority (which, even if this isn't super moral, is still the most relevant when it comes to a democracy.)

 

May i ask what country you're from?

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I am not real familiar with the Armed Forces or the culture of said. However, I have to wonder about morale for both cisgendered servicemen/women and transgendered folks. I guess time will tell. It does seem a trifle curious this coming up now with all the chaos overseas (e.g., ISIS, Russian aggression, etc.), but I suppose that is another topic.

 

I am glad you pointed that out, Nahum. It would seem that this administration likes be an illusionist. That sounds weird. Trying to single out the administration. Anyways, a lot of smoke and mirrors and switching our focus.

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It would seem as gayness is becoming more accepted, that getting beaten up will decline. There will be biases no doubt. I would not necessarily judge them, but here is the fine line: we know they will be judged accordingly. So did i just judge them? Another topic for that i spose.

 

No it is not. You have no idea what goes on in boot camp. Being openly flamboyantly gay is something you get beat up for. If you haven't been there then you should say "gayness is being more accepted". You are wrong to think that. That's the kind of guys straight recruits beat up on all the time until they quit or go awol.

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No it is not. You have no idea what goes on in boot camp. Being openly flamboyantly gay is something you get beat up for. If you haven't been there then you should say "gayness is being more accepted". You are wrong to think that. That's the kind of guys straight recruits beat up on all the time until they quit or go awol.

 

Not to mention that that logic follows, "if enough people agree then it is correct" thereby appealing to the majority. Enough people agree that abortion is morally right, so those that reject God as the absolute moral standard bearer follow society dictates, even when in conflict with the law of God. Therefore, society is their god. In Nazi Germany society deemed it legal to murder Jews, today society considers murdering unborn babies legal and as a result there are 56 MILLION murdered since Roe vs Wade in America alone. The thing about God is that His morals do not change and sway with culture and popular opinion. Liberals consider themselves evolving and progressive in ideology, but on the topic of morality it is an obvious regression.

 

A lot of people will attempt to prove that Jesus never said anything against homosexuality, and if that is the standard we are all in a lot of trouble. The argument from silence fails because Jesus never said anything about pedophile, bestiality, etc. Jesus is the Second person in the Trinity, the Godhead, which is in perfect harmony and agreeance from all eternity. From Sodom and Gomorrah when God rained fire, Jesus was in perfect agreement then and now with the Father and Spirit.

 

A thread of interest was began here by @Origen: https://www.christforums.org/forum/c...-genesis-19-24

 

God bless,

William

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Yes Lydia, but soup kitchens and wars are two very different circumstances. Women have now been approved to fight on the front lines. Do you agree with that? Anyone? I disagree. Does that make me a femaleaphobe?

 

 

It's more show and agitprop, there is no country in the world where women play a serious role as soldiers. Women can play a role in the background like in Britain during WWII, but you don't have to wear a uniform or be a foot soldier for this.

 

I also wonder how serious is such a headline about transgender in the army. Yes it attracts attention, but remains to verify how true or significant is it. I bet there isn't even a transgender definition in the army (you are either classified as male or female).

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It's more show and agitprop, there is no country in the world where women play a serious role as soldiers. Women can play a role in the background like in Britain during WWII, but you don't have to wear a uniform or be a foot soldier for this.

 

I also wonder how serious is such a headline about transgender in the army. Yes it attracts attention, but remains to verify how true or significant is it. I bet there isn't even a transgender definition in the army (you are either classified as male or female).

 

You know the "progressives" will fight to have that changed.

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It's more show and agitprop, there is no country in the world where women play a serious role as soldiers. Women can play a role in the background like in Britain during WWII, but you don't have to wear a uniform or be a foot soldier for this.

 

I also wonder how serious is such a headline about transgender in the army. Yes it attracts attention, but remains to verify how true or significant is it. I bet there isn't even a transgender definition in the army (you are either classified as male or female).

 

http://time.com/4134976/pentagon-combat-women/

 

The UK is the same

 

 

 

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