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John Calvin puts forward a very simple reason why love is the greatest gift: “Because faith and hope are our own: love is diffused among others.” In other words, faith and hope benefit the possessor, but love always benefits another. In John 13:34–35 Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Love always requires an “other” as an object; love cannot remain within itself, and that is part of what makes love the greatest gift.

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atpollard

I'm new to formal debating, but there is no reason that we can't just use his statement as it appears in #5 (sans the "I will affirm"), correct?

I am just asking if there is some special format these statements are typically composed in.

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David Lee

 

I believe you actually make up the largest group David. Lots of people are neither Charismatic, Pentecostal or strict Cessationist. The largest group is suspect middle ground. Why don't you represent this middle group and debate in a friendly manner? I haven't much debate experience on this subject matter, so I wouldn't mind taking the Cessationist position.

 

God bless,

William

 

Hi William, I will reply a bit more seriously this time. My answer is that I am "in" for the defense of the middle ground if the job is still available (it actually seems like an interesting position to try to defend). All we are missing now is your brother or sister Charismatic antagonist, and we're off to the races :)

 

Yours and His,

Middle Ground Dave

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Faber

 

Any particular reason why you use happened rather than happen?

 

God bless,

William

 

Hi William,

 

I used "happened" because it was in reference to the events that took place in the Bible but I do believe that this gift of "tongues" has ceased.

 

 

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David Lee

 

Hi William,

 

I used "happened" because it was in reference to the events that took place in the Bible but I do believe that this gift of "tongues" has ceased.

 

 

 

Ahh, thanks Faber, I was wondering about that as well.

 

In Christ,

David

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thatbrian

 

Hi William, I like the idea of trying to hold the "middle ground" in a polarized debate subject like this one. That way, all I have to do is say, "yeah, I can see that", to WHATEVER the two of you end up saying to each other, and I'll win the debate :p

 

I like what you have posted, SW. .

 

I enjoy debate, but it is seldom done well on online forums. Any debater, especially a Christian debater, should try to be persuasive, not just right. The goal, IMO, is to win one's opponent over, not simply the argument.

 

Winsome attitudes and language would be nice. . . I wish that I were more winsome, and I participate in these forums to help me to grow in that department.

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@atpollard

As pointed out above, there will be only three rounds. Each person will have 48 hours to respond. If one of you does not respond within 48 hours, then the debate will be closed. However, the other person will be given a chance to sum up with closing remarks.

 

The debate will be made into a sticky. No other posts will be allowed. If anyone other the debaters post, it will be deleted. Only after the last round will anyone be allowed to post.

 

Once the two of have your topic statement hammered out, message me. I will then start the thread for the two of you.

 

The Bible teaches that a Christian wife is to fear her husband as her lord/master (unless he commands her to sin).

 

The above is technically not what I believe. I apologize for this confusion. The reason being is that she should always fear her husband as her lord/master even if he commands her to sin. The thing is she should not be compelled to be obedient to any commands to commit sin but she is still to fear her husband as her lord/master.

 

How about the following:

A Christian wife is to obey her husband in all things in fear of him since he is her lord/master/head. She does not have to obey any command from him that would cause her to commit sin.

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Hi William, I will reply a bit more seriously this time. My answer is that I am "in" for the defense of the middle ground if the job is still available (it actually seems like an interesting position to try to defend). All we are missing now is your brother or sister Charismatic antagonist, and we're off to the races :)

 

Yours and His,

Middle Ground Dave

 

If you wish to have a casual debate between you and I that will be great too. Just lemme know. If you agree, I agree, just create the thread, and gentlemen first, make your case, and I'll respond. I am aware of the Westminster Confession, and must state that I am probably a "mild or medium" Cessationist.

 

If I may though suggest the Title: Have some Gifts ceased?

 

I think we probably would both benefit from a casual debate, while our questions, answers, and overall research may benefit others through our dialogue. :)

 

It is up to you, and please don't feel compelled. We can sit on our positions until a Charismaniac comes along. I am content. Though if we debate, beware that I plan to leave between the 21st to the 25th so I will be mostly gone (camping). I guess it probably would be best to wait until I get back.

 

God bless,

William

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atpollard
A Christian wife is to obey her husband in all things (except sin) in fear of him since he is her lord/master/head.

This is adequate.

We all agree that NO ONE has the right to order you to sin, so I will not be bringing that up as an argument.

It is the "fear and obey" that I propose to challenge (not the order to sin).

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This is adequate.

We all agree that NO ONE has the right to order you to sin, so I will not be bringing that up as an argument.

It is the "fear and obey" that I propose to challenge (not the order to sin).

That is what I was thinking in regard to sinning. I will setup the thread.

 

 

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David Lee

 

If you wish to have a casual debate between you and I that will be great too. Just lemme know. If you agree, I agree, just create the thread, and gentlemen first, make your case, and I'll respond. I am aware of the Westminster Confession, and must state that I am probably a "mild or medium" Cessationist.

 

If I may though suggest the Title: Have some Gifts ceased?

 

I think we probably would both benefit from a casual debate, while our questions, answers, and overall research may benefit others through our dialogue. :)

 

It is up to you, and please don't feel compelled. We can sit on our positions until a Charismaniac comes along. I am content. Though if we debate, beware that I plan to leave between the 21st to the 25th so I will be mostly gone (camping). I guess it probably would be best to wait until I get back.

 

God bless,

William

 

Hi William, I'll consider it and pray about it while you're on vacation. Maybe a strict (hardcore :eek:) NON-Cessationist will show up by then too. If not, perhaps either October 3rd or 10th might be good days for the two of us to get things started?

 

I hope you have a wonderful and blessed time away :)

 

Yours in Christ,

David

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Jordan Henshaw

reformed baptist and I would like to do an Annihilationism vs Eternal Conscious Torment Debate, and it says post the topic here. But the last post here was in 2016, so I must be missing something, and I can't figure out how to send anyone a PM.

 

:RpS_sad:

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atpollard
reformed baptist and I would like to do an Annihilationism vs Eternal Conscious Torment Debate, and it says post the topic here. But the last post here was in 2016, so I must be missing something, and I can't figure out how to send anyone a PM.

 

:RpS_sad:

Sending a PM:

Click on name of someone in one of their posts to go to THEIR "User Profile".

Select the "Activities" tab at the top.

You should see a button that says "Private Message" ... click on it.

It should create a PM with their name ready for you to add a "subject" and some "text".

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Jordan Henshaw

Sending a PM:

Click on name of someone in one of their posts to go to THEIR "User Profile".

Select the "Activities" tab at the top.

You should see a button that says "Private Message" ... click on it.

It should create a PM with their name ready for you to add a "subject" and some "text".

I tried that already and it just gives me a "Message Center" page that says "New Message" at the top with nothing to click on.

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reformed baptist

Sending a PM:

Click on name of someone in one of their posts to go to THEIR "User Profile".

Select the "Activities" tab at the top.

You should see a button that says "Private Message" ... click on it.

It should create a PM with their name ready for you to add a "subject" and some "text".

I tried that already and it just gives me a "Message Center" page that says "New Message" at the top with nothing to click on.

I have included you in the conversation with origen

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reformed baptist and I would like to do an Annihilationism vs Eternal Conscious Torment Debate, and it says post the topic here. But the last post here was in 2016, so I must be missing something, and I can't figure out how to send anyone a PM.

 

:RpS_sad:

Topic is "the punishment for sin is both eternal and conscious" I will be affirming the statement and Jordan will be in the position of affirming the negative in our opening statements. The one request I would make is that can I please ask for 72 hours to respond - I would hope to respond in 48 hours but I'm a pastor with children and a wife who works and sometimes things happen that take my time away and we have the time difference between the US and the UK

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William
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I tried that already and it just gives me a "Message Center" page that says "New Message" at the top with nothing to click on.

 

A minimum of 10 posts is needed before the PM system becomes available to a member. You're now at post 11 so it explains why you're now able to access it.

 

God bless,

William

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