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What do you guys think of the possibility of Trump becoming President of the United States?

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I'm curious what Americans (and non-Americans as well) think of the possibility of Trump being the leader of a very powerful nation? Which vote will you go with, and which politician has the best claim right now? Let's talk politics, people! I want to hear what you guys think in this matter!

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I am not American but I have lots of relatives in the US who are not voting for Trump. They say that the guy is so gutsy and candid that the country might be in danger in his hands. But that is the essence of democracy, that you can vote into office anyone who is eligible to run for president. I have heard of the plan of Republican candidates to unite and pull down Trump from the front position. Unfortunately, their second leading candidate, Ted Cruz, seems to be having a hard time with the polls. And if the bickerings will continue among the candidates then I guess the Republicans will lose their chance for the presidency since Clinton on the other fence is making great strides against Bernie Sanders.

 

 

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I'm American and I think that a Trump victory would be a disaster for the nation. Yet I think it is possible that God might allow him to win as a judgment on America for its sins.

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Personally, I would vote for Trump over Clinton any day. Hilary Clinton has such a bad record of scandals that it's a matter of picking the lesser of two evils. Is Trump the ideal President? No, but a good thing is that he will force the current elite Republican part to reassess the problem within the GOP. At the moment, the GOP is so far removed from the populous that they aren't relevant. While the left is so far the other way they're trying to un-Americanize America by making it a socialist country.

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I'm American and I think that a Trump victory would be a disaster for the nation.
Agreed!

 

 

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Seems many want "change" and a boost to the economy. Most of the professing Christians supporting Trump point out that Jesus only supplied around 12 jobs. And therefore, are more than willing to disregard Trump's flip flops from one side to another on issues of abortion and same sex marriage. Trump is a business man they say, he is a billionaire, imagine what he can do for us!

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Trump is a business man they say, he is a billionaire, imagine what he can do for us!
How many time has Trump filed bankruptcy?

 

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How many time has Trump filed bankruptcy?

 

That's besides the point. Heard some Trump supporters gang up on Carly yesterday too. Her personal life and divorce became an issue. Someone asked how many times has Trump been divorced? That's besides the point!

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That's besides the point. Someone asked how many times has Trump been divorced? That's besides the point!
I don't think these things think are beside the point.

 

 

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I don't think these things think are beside the point.

 

 

Of course I was being cynical!

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of course i was being cynical!
I know!!!!!!!

 

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Quite honestly I am seriously considering going third party. Last go around I wrote in Ron Paul because I wouldn't vote for Romney, much less Obama. This time around I just don't trust Trump, I do not see how a woman president would be good for this country (especially Clinton), Cruz choosing Fiorina isn't much better, and Sanders is just this side of completely certifiable. I will have to look at how they stand on the issues, but either Gary Johnson or John McAfee might be the alternatives here.

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I like Trump and have planned to vote for him right along. I know he's arrogant, and completely unafraid to call a spade a spade. He's also strong-willed and determined to have his own way. That's different from some of the wishy-washy presidents we've had in the past, at least. He will do whatever he pleases and the democrats won't be able to talk him out of anything he has his mind set on. I really hate it when a republican candidate makes all kinds of great promises and once in office, does a complete "donut in the driveway" and does the exact opposite of what he promised. I think Trump would rather die than do that. Besides, his living conditions are likely of higher quality than the white house. The old place probably needs a remodeling by now. I'm being goofy now, but we wouldn't want the Donald to slum it, would we? ;)

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What are the points for and against based on a Christian perspective?

I guess a negative would be his want to have stronger deterrents against immigrants/helping those in need unless you're American.

Any other big things people should be aware of?

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What are the points for and against based on a Christian perspective?

 

Good question. Exodus 18:21 "Moreover, look for able men from all the people, men who fear God, who are trustworthy and hate a bribe, and place such men over the people as chiefs of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties, and of tens."

 

As you might well know. Trump has boasted in having politicians in his back pocket (possible bribes). I see no indication that Trump is a genuine Christian. Not even the church he claimed to be a member of has verified his membership which makes me question not only his trustworthiness but overall integrity. Needlessly said, his tongue is not bridled and doesn't demonstrate any fruit of the Spirit. Insult after another, boasting, vanity, and resulting vengeance by using his financial and political influence.

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So if you had no idea of his character, or his policies were coming from another candidate, are his policies un-christian in anyway?

 

Thank you again for the helpful reply, you do devote a lot fo energy into this which I appreciate :)

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So if you had no idea of his character, or his policies were coming from another candidate, are his policies un-christian in anyway?

 

Thank you again for the helpful reply, you do devote a lot fo energy into this which I appreciate :)

 

Well, lets look at his fund raising for Veterans. What ever happened to all that money Trump raised for the veterans? 6 million dollars is missing. If his policies were coming from another candidate or a person on his staff, might I recommend that person come forward? Perhaps that person may be better suited to be president rather than Trump? That is, unless Trump is paying more than the position of presidency, which makes me question the intent and motive of holding the office. 6 million dollars from the potential "Commander and Chief" is missing:

 

Luke 3:14 - Soldiers also asked him, “And we, what shall we do?” And he said to them, “Do not extort money from anyone by threats or by false accusation, and be content with your wages.”

 

Not to mention, Trump was quoted as saying he never read the Constitution. He said, he never saw the value in it. Now, soldiers take an oath to defend the Constitution from both foreign and domestic threats. Is it me, or has Trump stated that these men give their life in vain?

 

I believe Trump will say whatever necessary to please any given audience he is addressing at the time. His core ideology is not centered on Christian theology. Which brings to question, what motivates the man and guides his intentions? Did I mention 6 million dollars is missing? Someone has to be held accountable. One of the things we are used to from Obama's leadership is that he doesn't take responsibility for anything, but instead passes the blame on others. He lacks accountability.

 

I have also seen, over the years people attack Michelle Obama. She is called less than "first" lady like. Yet now we have a potential first lady that did a nude photo shoot. It's plastered across the media so everyone can see it. Do we blame the media or the woman? Does Trump take responsibility of his own household as the spiritual leader? Exactly what kind of values do we expect from our leaders in office?

 

I'm not even addressing his position on abortion yet. But my basic question to ask, if Trump doesn't respect life at the most innocent stage of development, why would he care about any other stage of development, like from the office of soldier?

 

To answer your question bluntly, yes his policies are un-christian. I expect a Christian to be God fearing. The staunch posturing Trump demonstrates does not exhibit Christian behavior. But instead, and as bluntly and personally as I can suggest it, what we have here is the "white" version of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, someone that throws fuel on the fire and rises in the flames of other people's emotions. People are angry, and Trump has tapped into that angry citizen. However, does Trump represent the GOP platform? For all the above reasons, I see no evidence of his ideology aligning with the GOP. The GOP had no right to endorse this man to begin with.

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Trump is the worst possible choice for President. However God does sometimes judge nations by giving them evil rulers, so it is possible he might allow him to be elected.

 

Do you think God would do that even it is harmed innocent people?

I accept that God may help where he can, and may not always be able to help either for a greater good or just can't, but to actively make something worse? Hmmm I don't know

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