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Death Conquered...when?

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In terms of time and space, when was death conquered? On the cross? At the resurrection? Gen 3:15? or?

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11 minutes ago, Solas said:

In terms of time and space, when was death conquered? On the cross? At the resurrection? Gen 3:15? or?

In terms of salvation I do not think the cross should be separated from the resurrection. However, to answer your question I believe death was conquered at the cross/resurrection. At that time both OT saints [forward looking faith] and NT saints [historical looking faith] intersected in faith believing the promises of God. 

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3 minutes ago, William said:

In terms of salvation I do not think the cross should be separated from the resurrection. However, to answer your question I believe death was conquered at the cross/resurrection. At that time both OT saints [forward looking faith] and NT saints [historical looking faith] intersected. 

It is interesting Paul separates the two in relation to the believers life, one pertaining to the past, the other to the future...

 

Romans 6:5 (KJV) For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

 

Would you separate the Virgin birth from the other two?

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Joh_5:24  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 
 

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I make a number of people upset with me when this subject is broached from any direction.  The truth is about the second, the Eternal Death and  none of us that believe will suffer that death.  The best illustration I know of this is the Resurrection of the Old Testament Saints coming out of their graves, completed, marching through the Holy City on their way from Paradise and to Heaven, Matt. 27:50-60.

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10 hours ago, th1bill said:

I make a number of people upset with me when this subject is broached from any direction.  The truth is about the second, the Eternal Death and  none of us that believe will suffer that death.  The best illustration I know of this is the Resurrection of the Old Testament Saints coming out of their graves, completed, marching through the Holy City on their way from Paradise and to Heaven, Matt. 27:50-60.

 

If that is the case, they forgot to take David with them. Let's listen to Peter:

 

Acts 2:34,35 "For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool." 

 

Was that not after the Matthew 27 incident? Also all the patriarchs of Hebrews 11, they are not perfected yet, right?

 

Heb. 11:39,40 "And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect."     🤔

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