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Vaping will be going to the black market

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Not sure if anyone has been watching, but it looks like our government is moving toward banning vaping.  As much as I like this effort this will just force the sale of e-cigs underground.

 

What was originally touted as a safe alternative to smoking is suddenly becoming even worse that what it is supposed to replace.  Irreparable lung damage is in your future if you choose to partake.

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Just now, Knotical said:

What was originally touted as a safe alternative to smoking is suddenly becoming even worse that what it is supposed to replace.

For those that lack common sense.

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17 hours ago, Mountainmanbob said:

The government needs to try and hold back man from some of his wretched desires. Although they can only go so far.

 

These poor souls are killing themselves. 

 

M-Bob 

One thing we don't need is the government making more laws to protect us from ourselves.  If an individual wants to make the bad decision to put something that will ultimately do them harm into their bodies that is their choice and should live, or die, with the consequences.

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1 hour ago, Knotical said:

One thing we don't need is the government making more laws to protect us from ourselves.  If an individual wants to make the bad decision to put something that will ultimately do them harm into their bodies that is their choice and should live, or die, with the consequences.

 I agree with that but, we still need regulations and laws.

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39 minutes ago, Mountainmanbob said:

 I agree with that but, we still need regulations and laws.

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Only to control the government, which is what the constitution was originally for.

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There are many crazy ones in prison who I want kept under control.

 

Lot of laws back in the Bible days.

 

Remember an eye for an eye?

One of many.

 

But true --

I'm free to step outside and smoke a cigar. Right now actually. 

 

M-Bob 

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3 hours ago, Mountainmanbob said:

There are many crazy ones in prison who I want kept under control.

 

Lot of laws back in the Bible days.

 

Remember an eye for an eye?

One of many.

 

But true --

I'm free to step outside and smoke a cigar. Right now actually. 

 

M-Bob 

If we followed more closely to biblical laws there would be a lot fewer people in prison, as those who committed crimes that required the death penalty would no longer be alive.  Including rape, murder, etc...

 

Now people who are in prison because they decided to drink, smoke, take drugs, etc... don't necessarily belong there, unless of course they ended up doing something stupid as a result of their choice.  That's where things get a little fuzzy when it comes to the legal system.  If we actually modeled our laws after the bible there were be a lot fewer people in prison.

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12 hours ago, Knotical said:

One thing we don't need is the government making more laws to protect us from ourselves.  If an individual wants to make the bad decision to put something that will ultimately do them harm into their bodies that is their choice and should live, or die, with the consequences.

Just curious, have you observed countries such as the Netherlands which have legalized a list of narcotics that'd make every junky's mouth water here in America? I'm withholding my opinion here and just asking whether you've observed the negative and what escapes me as the positive effects of legalizing drugs?

 

Coming out of California, the Santa Cruz area to be specific, and living with the new Marijuana laws [which are still a federal crime] I'd hate to see it come to my state. Ask me and I'll provide my observation and not an opinion for others to decide whether such observation is testable and repeatable with dire effects in their areas.

 

I'll interject my opinion now and just say I'd rather follow in the footsteps of the war against drugs as the President of the Philippines has declared if it weren't for that pesky thing called "due process".

 

I get the Libertarian view but I reject it. I realize Government is going to exists to the degree I disagree and that the Government needs to be limited by the Constitution [Constitutional Republican). If you want to get Biblical then there's not many other purposes for Government other than the God ordained right to seek out evil and combat it with the sword. Let's oppose the highway robbery [sarcasm towards infrastructure etc] and everything else man desires to impose on other men because they think "that's a good idea".

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