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GOD's Punishment

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If GOD is Love, then how does GOD's Punishment work?

The subject is parallel to our earlier discussion about hell. As it is us who have created and do enlarge hell on, it is us also who play the chief role in our own punishment due.


Let’s see the Scriptures.


The Angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear Him,

and delivereth them. (Psalm 34:7)


Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my Refuge, even the Most High,

thy Habitation; There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague

come nigh thy dwelling. For He shall give His Angels Charge over thee,

to keep thee in all thy Ways. (Psalm 91:9-11)


Here we can see the Mighty Work of GOD's Protection over His People.


Search Old Testament Scriptures and find there all the same Protection over the whole Israel. LORD promised and gave them the best land on the face of Earth asking in return only their Faithfulness to Him. They were more than protected being able to win battles using no arms at all – GOD did that for them.

Exodus 14:13-14; Deuteronomy 31:6; 2Kings 6:16-17; 2Chronicles 20:15; &c.


In the same Holy Writings, we can also see quite opposite pictures.

People turned their backs to GOD and got into abominable idolatry.

Have a look at the above-quoted Psalms 34:7 & 91:9-11 and imagine everything to the contrary: godless people, Guardian Angels step back, demons step forward.

Deuteronomy 28:15.


As it seems to me, GOD's Punishment is not about doing evil, rather, it’s just termination of doing Good. For how long? That depends on ourselves.


Be not deceived; GOD is not mocked:

for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Galatians 6:7)


...the Long-Suffering of GOD is Great. Therefore, He does not punish sin immediately. If He did, the moment we sinned, we should perish. This Long-Suffering of GOD Satan ever abuses. And it just suits his purpose, that man should not immediately feel his sin. For because punishment is thus deferred, Satan fills the mind with security and unconcern. So that a man is not only kept blind to the fact that he has sinned, but is caused to take delight and to glory in his sins. (Martin Luther, The Creation, p.213)


Scripture further references:


Leviticus 26:3-12 – Try to read in the negative.

2Chronicles 7:14 – ditto

Isaiah 50:1 – ...for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves...

Lamentations, Chapter 5 – GOD’s Protection is gone.

Hosea 9:12 – GOD punishes when departs.

Zechariah 2:5 – The picture of GOD’s Protection Promised.

John 8:31-32 – Try to read in the negative.

1John 1:9 – ditto


(Our “Christian Mind” Ministry, “Q & A” book, chapter 64)


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57 minutes ago, Igor said:

If GOD is Love, then how does GOD's Punishment work?

God is love (1 John 4:8) but love is not God.


That is, God is the standard bearer for love and our human perception is not.


Our idea of love may not align with God's act of wrath, because God is not only love but the sum of His attributes or Holy. Even wrath brings God glory.


We must not project our idea of love onto God, that would be making our idea into a god, merely man making god into his own image. An error of such idolatry is expressed in Romans 1:18-32, notice how the expression of idolatry is made inwardly first, and then outwardly, and then expressed ultimately by same sex relations which is not only a distortion of love but the epitome of self-serving love. Even the very nature of sin which does not limit itself to an individual but one that affects others can be gleaned.


18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[a] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.


24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.


26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.


28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.


Why is God angry or wrathful Romans 1:18? Our very discussion here @Igor touches upon God's invisible attributes and divine nature Romans 1:20. Jesus experienced the full wrath of the Father upon the cross (propitiation). Imagine how unjust God would be if He was not angered over injustice Romans 1:18 (against ungodliness and unrighteousness)?


Love is but one of God's invisible attributes. In the end "man will become tinder and his work will be a spark; both will burn together, with no one to quench the flames." Even in hell God's otherness (Holiness) sets Him apart and through His wrath He'll be glorified when Justice is dispensed. A reoccurring theme in Revelation, whenever God demonstrates Justice or Mercy and Wrath or Grace, the Four and Twenty Elders, the Redeemed saints whether heaven or hell, shall praise the Lord whenever He shall Judge.


God bless,


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