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For the believer in Jesus or not?

 

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.  (Rev 20:11)
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.  (Rev 20:12)
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.  (Rev 20:13)
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.  (Rev 20:14)
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.  (Rev 20:15)
 

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Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.  (Joh 5:24)
 

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 For the unbeliever.

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14 hours ago, Faber said:

 For the unbeliever.

I would think so, but we had attended a RCUS (Reformed Church in the United States)  a while back and the assistant pastor (elder) was teaching that all will be before the White Throne Judgment. So I was wondering if there was an official Reformed position on that.

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On 4/17/2019 at 6:26 PM, Solas said:

For the believer in Jesus or not?

 

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.  (Rev 20:11)
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.  (Rev 20:12)
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.  (Rev 20:13)
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.  (Rev 20:14)
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.  (Rev 20:15)
 

I'm thinking of...

 

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.  (Joh 5:24)
 

Well, there's a little more to your question.

 

At the "Great White Throne" unbelievers face a final judgment of works. Then again, believers will face a judgment of works Romans 14:10-12; 2 Corinthians 5:10. And again, this judgment is of our works and not faith 1 Corinthians 3:13-14 which do not affect our salvation but our rewards for service enabled by the Spirit for God.

 

As to WHEN this occurs for believers some believe at the Great White Throne but opinions vary. For example, some think as each believer dies judgment happens, and others a future event between a pretribulational rapture and Christ's return.

 

8 hours ago, Solas said:

I would think so, but we had attended a RCUS (Reformed Church in the United States)  a while back and the assistant pastor (elder) was teaching that all will be before the White Throne Judgment. So I was wondering if there was an official Reformed position on that.

I have no idea as to what RCUS believe etc. Reformed tend to be Amillennial. Why does this matter? Well, Pre Mil tend to push everything into the future. Amil tend to emphasize God's sovereignty in their eschatology [an emphasis carried over from soteriology] while describing the millennium as realized now [was and is] as Stephen upon his last moment, "full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God" Acts 7:55-56.
 

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52 minutes ago, William said:

And again, this judgment is of our works and not faith

Do not true works issue from faith? (Heb 11)...as whatever is not of faith is sin. (Rom 14:23)

 

Also, It seems only the 'dead' (mentioned 4 times) are judged at the WT Judgment.

 

Revelation 20:12-13 NASB
[12] And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. [13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.

 

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8 hours ago, Solas said:

I would think so, but we had attended a RCUS (Reformed Church in the United States)  a while back and the assistant pastor (elder) was teaching that all will be before the White Throne Judgment. So I was wondering if there was an official Reformed position on that.

The official position in the Reformed faith is that there will be a judgment for all believers . But not because of their sins because that was rectified by the cross of Christ . The Judgment seat of Christ is not punitive .It is for the sake of rewards  .

Every believer will be at the Judgment, though some will receive special rewards for faithfulness. Knowing that we will be judged according to our works done in faith is troubling  sometimes because we often wonder if we will  meet the standard laid down by our Lord and what will be the end result. Leading an absolute sinless life is not possible with the world, the flesh and the devil surrounding us. Even certain works done in faith are difficult to make a determination of whether it will be acceptable or not acceptable to our Lord .

" If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon he shall receive a reward . If any man's work shall be burned ,he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved ; yet so as by ( through) fire ." 1st.Cor 3:14,15 . The loss here means the loss of a reward (s)  Everyone of us shall give an account unto our Lord . Rom. 14: 11,12. M

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42 minutes ago, Solas said:

Do not true works issue from faith? (Heb 11)...as whatever is not of faith is sin. (Rom 14:23)

There are two judgments. One determines our destiny (not based on works but faith not what we've done but what Christ has done) and the other reward. The Great White Throne is for unbelievers, but as I attempted to convey opinions vary as to whether believers recieve reward at such time. 

 

As for what I stated let me repeat for clarity, "And again, this judgment is of our works and not faith 1 Corinthians 3:13-14 which do not affect our salvation but our rewards for service enabled by the Spirit for God."

 

These rewards are dependent on faithfulness 2 Timothy 2:12; Revelation 2:26-28, 3:21.

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