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Is Jesus Michael the Archangel?

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1. Geneva Study Bible: The angel here notes two things: first that the Church will be in great affliction and trouble at Christ's coming, and next that God will send his angel to deliver it, whom he here calls Michael, meaning Christ, who is proclaimed by the preaching of the Gospel. (Daniel 12:1)

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/gsb/daniel-12.html

2. John Gill: The Archangel, who has all the angels of heaven under him, and at his command, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ (Daniel 12:1)

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/geb/daniel-12.html

3. Adam Clarke: The word Michael מיכאל , seems to be compounded of מי mi, who, כ ke, like, and אל El, God; he who is like God; hence by this personage, in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus. (Jude 1:9)

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/acc/jude-1.html

4. J. P. Lange: We take it that Michael, in accordance with the difficult reading, Isaiah, from the outset, Christ in warlike array against Satan, and that hence it is that the angels of Michael are appointed to be angels of war against the Kingdom of Darkness. 

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/lcc/revelation-12.html

 

 I was wondering if anyone thinks that the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Archangel Michael. The Jehovah's Witnesses believe this but they also affirm that the Father created Michael/Jesus. The SDA's believe that Jesus is Michael but still maintain that He is God.

 I do not believe that Jesus is the Archangel Michael, but I am wondering what others have to say based on what the Bible teaches.

 

Thank you

 

 

 

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Is the archangel Michael the same as Jesus Christ?

 

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No, Michael and Jesus are not one and the same. The suggestion that they are one in the same is based on a poor understanding of Hebrew as well as on some very incorrect interpretations of particular passages.

The name "Michael"

For instance, one of the most common arguments is that the name "Michael" means "who is like God" or "he who is like God." This is completely false. Rather, the name means "Who is like God?" It is a question, not a statement. The Hebrew word my (which forms the "Mi" in "Michael") is an interrogative pronoun; it asks the question "who?" It is never used as a relative pronoun (as in "the one who," "the one that" or "the one which"). The relative pronoun in Hebrew is asher — which is not a component of Michael's name.

Even if "Michael" meant "he who is like God" — and again, it most assuredly does not — the argument that names regularly identify the character of the one named is also false. It is true that God's names identify his character, but creaturely names that refer to God do not attribute divine attributes to the ones so named. Rather, they are intended as memorials that honor God. The Bible is full of names that do this, such as "Elijah," which is composed simply of two names for God: "El" (usually translated "God") and "Yah" (a short form of "Yahweh," the name commonly translated as "Lord" or "Jehovah"). Elijah's name does not indicate that Elijah is both El and Yahweh. Rather, it is a memorial that means "Yahweh is God." In fact, "Michael" is also a memorial. The rhetorical question "Who is like God?" assumes the answer "No one is like God," so that it means "God is Supreme."

Besides, even if "Michael" meant "he who is like God," and even if this meant that Michael himself was "like God," this would not imply that Michael was Jesus. On the contrary, it would demonstrate that Michael was not Jesus. After all, Jesus is not merely like God — Jesus is God.

 

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10 minutes ago, William said:

Rather, the name means "Who is like God?" 

EXACTLLY!!!

 

It is a praise name.  The name does not denote one "who is like God" but ask the question "who is like God."  To which the answer ought to be NO ONE.  There is no one like the LORD God.

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37 minutes ago, CDF47 said:

 

WWW.APOLOGETICSPRESS.ORG

Is Jesus Really Michael the Archangel?

 

From the article:

One final proof that Jesus is not Michael the archangel actually comes from one of the five passages in which Michael’s name is found in Scripture—Jude 9. According to Jude: “Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, ‘The Lord rebuke you!’ ” Whereas Michael would not dare pronounce a railing judgment against the devil (cf. 2 Peter 2:11), Jesus once declared about Satan: “He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it” (John 8:44). Jesus did not approach the subject of rebuking Satan with the same hesitation as godly angels like Michael. Jesus, as Lord of heaven and Earth (Matthew 28:18), boldly called the devil a murderer and liar, and even went so far as to declare that “there is no truth in him.” The Son of God obviously is not Michael the archangel.

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 I think an even stronger affirmation of Christ rebuking Satan is when He did so directly to him (Matthew 4:10). Furthermore, the Greek word used for rebuke (epitimaō) in Jude 1:9 is used of Christ rebuking other demons (Matthew 17:18; Mark 1:25; 9:25; Luke 4:35; 4:41; 9:42).

 

 There are two other things that I have been pondering:

1. Since the Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus is the created angel Michael then prior to 1954[*1] were they worshiping a created angel?

2. Since Michael appeals to the Lord (which is a prayer) for the rebuking of Satan (Jude 1:9) doesn't the Lord encompass the Lord Jesus since Jude 1:4 teaches that He is the only Master and Lord?

 

 

[*1] https://www.christforums.com/topic/7270-worship-jesus-lt-1954-gt-dont-worship-jesus/?tab=comments#comment-40002

 

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20 hours ago, Faber said:

From the article:

One final proof that Jesus is not Michael the archangel actually comes from one of the five passages in which Michael’s name is found in Scripture—Jude 9. According to Jude: “Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, ‘The Lord rebuke you!’ ” Whereas Michael would not dare pronounce a railing judgment against the devil (cf. 2 Peter 2:11), Jesus once declared about Satan: “He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it” (John 8:44). Jesus did not approach the subject of rebuking Satan with the same hesitation as godly angels like Michael. Jesus, as Lord of heaven and Earth (Matthew 28:18), boldly called the devil a murderer and liar, and even went so far as to declare that “there is no truth in him.” The Son of God obviously is not Michael the archangel.

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 I think an even stronger affirmation of Christ rebuking Satan is when He did so directly to him (Matthew 4:10). Furthermore, the Greek word used for rebuke (epitimaō) in Jude 1:9 is used of Christ rebuking other demons (Matthew 17:18; Mark 1:25; 9:25; Luke 4:35; 4:41; 9:42).

 

 There are two other things that I have been pondering:

1. Since the Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus is the created angel Michael then prior to 1954[*1] were they worshiping a created angel?

2. Since Michael appeals to the Lord (which is a prayer) for the rebuking of Satan (Jude 1:9) doesn't the Lord encompass the Lord Jesus since Jude 1:4 teaches that He is the only Master and Lord?

 

 

[*1] https://www.christforums.com/topic/7270-worship-jesus-lt-1954-gt-dont-worship-jesus/?tab=comments#comment-40002

 

Excellent points.  Even more information supporting the fact that Jesus is not Michael.  Not sure what JWs and SDAs are thinking when it comes to this topic.  They are way off base on this one in my opinion. 

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On 2/12/2019 at 7:45 AM, Faber said:

1. Geneva Study Bible: The angel here notes two things: first that the Church will be in great affliction and trouble at Christ's coming, and next that God will send his angel to deliver it, whom he here calls Michael, meaning Christ, who is proclaimed by the preaching of the Gospel. (Daniel 12:1)

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/gsb/daniel-12.html

2. John Gill: The Archangel, who has all the angels of heaven under him, and at his command, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ (Daniel 12:1)

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/geb/daniel-12.html

3. Adam Clarke: The word Michael מיכאל , seems to be compounded of מי mi, who, כ ke, like, and אל El, God; he who is like God; hence by this personage, in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus. (Jude 1:9)

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/acc/jude-1.html

4. J. P. Lange: We take it that Michael, in accordance with the difficult reading, Isaiah, from the outset, Christ in warlike array against Satan, and that hence it is that the angels of Michael are appointed to be angels of war against the Kingdom of Darkness. 

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/lcc/revelation-12.html

 

 I was wondering if anyone thinks that the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Archangel Michael. The Jehovah's Witnesses believe this but they also affirm that the Father created Michael/Jesus. The SDA's believe that Jesus is Michael but still maintain that He is God.

 I do not believe that Jesus is the Archangel Michael, but I am wondering what others have to say based on what the Bible teaches.

 

Thank you

 

 

 

 

On 2/12/2019 at 7:45 AM, Faber said:

1. Geneva Study Bible: The angel here notes two things: first that the Church will be in great affliction and trouble at Christ's coming, and next that God will send his angel to deliver it, whom he here calls Michael, meaning Christ, who is proclaimed by the preaching of the Gospel. (Daniel 12:1)

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/gsb/daniel-12.html

2. John Gill: The Archangel, who has all the angels of heaven under him, and at his command, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ (Daniel 12:1)

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/geb/daniel-12.html

3. Adam Clarke: The word Michael מיכאל , seems to be compounded of מי mi, who, כ ke, like, and אל El, God; he who is like God; hence by this personage, in the Apocalypse, many understand the Lord Jesus. (Jude 1:9)

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/acc/jude-1.html

4. J. P. Lange: We take it that Michael, in accordance with the difficult reading, Isaiah, from the outset, Christ in warlike array against Satan, and that hence it is that the angels of Michael are appointed to be angels of war against the Kingdom of Darkness. 

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/lcc/revelation-12.html

 

 I was wondering if anyone thinks that the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Archangel Michael. The Jehovah's Witnesses believe this but they also affirm that the Father created Michael/Jesus. The SDA's believe that Jesus is Michael but still maintain that He is God.

 I do not believe that Jesus is the Archangel Michael, but I am wondering what others have to say based on what the Bible teaches.

 

Thank you

 

 

 

 

 

Jesus preincarnate form was The Lord, or The Angel of the Lord, which may be the cause of some thinking He is Michael. 

 

 

 

  • the Angel of the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush.

 

 

  • And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.

 

 

 

 

Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian. And he led the flock to the back of the desert, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. And the Angel of the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush. So he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed. Then Moses said, “I will now turn aside and see this great sight, why the bush does not burn.”
So when the Lord saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, “Moses, Moses!”
And he said, “Here I am.”
Then He said, “Do not draw near this place. Take your sandals off your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground.” Moreover He said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God. Exodus 3:1-6

 

 

 

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