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Date of Revelation

Date of Revelation  

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  1. 1. When was Revelation written?

    • around 95 AD under Domitian
    • around 65 under Nero
    • during the year of the four emperors (69 AD)
    • Other (please state)

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11 minutes ago, justasking said:

If we break this down a bit:

Irenaeus wasn't a student of Polycarp.

It is questionable whether he claimed that Revelation was seen in John's day.


Clement of Alexandria doesn't mention Domitian.


Victorinus doesn't agree with Eusebius that John was banished late in Domitian's reign.


Jerome was following Eusebius. 

So where is the strong evidence?


Also Eusebius was just following Irenaeus.

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Everyone let's keep this thread on topic.  The evidence for or against an early or late date for the composition of the book of Revelation.  No more detours or side issues.

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1 hour ago, justasking said:

You are an admin and you are making this about preterism instead of about the dating of Revelation? Isn't your job to insure people don't wreck and destroy threads with their own pet obsessions? 

I let my emotions get the better of me. I have with drawn from the thread. .. 

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