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Dear Heretics

 

We are very aware of your views on the history of the Christian church especially your views concerning Constantine and the Nicene council.  Many false claims (i.e. lies) have been made concerning exactly what happen at the council and Constantine's role.  Before you start know that some of us, unlike you, have read the sources, know the history.  Thus your false and down right silly claims will be exposed for the the nonsense they are.

 

If you really want to discuss the topic intelligently you need to read the key sources and not parrot the views of those, like yourselves, who have no idea what the sources say.  That is poor, very poor scholarship.  Therefore for your edification I will list the sources that you need to read, the sources you need to check when quoted.  Remember you will be exposed for a fraud when you demonstrate your complete lack of knowledge on the subject.  So don't waste your time and more importantly our time with false claims, false theology, and lies.

 

Primary Sources

(1) Eusebius Pamphilus

(2) Athanasius

(3) Eustathius

 

Secondary Sources

(1) Socrates Scholasticus

(2) Theodoret

(3) Rufinius

(4) Sozomen

(5) Photius

(6) Philostorgius

(7) Socrates Scholasticus

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the derogatory claims about Nicea usually come from non-creedal Christians who view any creed or statement of dogma with suspicion?

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13 minutes ago, Concord said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the derogatory claims about Nicea usually come from non-creedal Christians who view any creed or statement of dogma with suspicion?

Yes, you are correct.  But I was thinking more of those conspiratorial types, the myth followers, those who think they know but really have no idea.  However I do realizes the two groups are not mutually exclusive.:classic_sad:

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15 minutes ago, Origen said:

Yes, you are correct.  But I was thinking more of those conspiratorial types, the myth followers, those who think they know but really have no idea.  However I do realizes the two groups are not mutually exclusive.:classic_sad:

Oh, kind of like the "Constantine hijacked Christianity and the church went underground for 1200 years" types?  It's funny, because that "Trail of Blood" mythology has been discredited among the vast majority of Baptists from what I'm given to understand.

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