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John Calvin puts forward a very simple reason why love is the greatest gift: “Because faith and hope are our own: love is diffused among others.” In other words, faith and hope benefit the possessor, but love always benefits another. In John 13:34–35 Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Love always requires an “other” as an object; love cannot remain within itself, and that is part of what makes love the greatest gift.


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  2. Which of us is sinless? Sometimes we should consider the 'party' the candidate is connected to. IMO casting a vote for someone we know will not win is the same as voting for a democrat. That is my conscience .
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  4. I note you posted what you consider the Catholic position. My question is whether you know and understand the Protestant position? For example, why wasn't the Apocryphal included as inspired literature in the Protestant bible? If you don't want to discuss your own OP just say so but I thought you may enjoy deepening the discussion further?
  5. What I think is that Paul urged us to pray not only for the persons in high places but also lowly places, that is, men of all classes. For men the Psalmist lamented over in grief which took possession and life from others acting as their oppressors. What I do not think Paul meant was that we should not lament to God over the evils of the world and ask for deliverance. Why point to one verse as though they either contradict or that one verse is not relevant any more than the other? For example, should we not pray to God for deliverance of evil and not be led into temptation as well as for those pompous and haughty men which ignore the rule of electing God fearing men over us? Even the Lord's Prayer can be a curse as well as a blessing when we pray "Your Kingdom come", because either way praying such limits the time of evil in the world. I have to admit and confess something that perhaps I should of awhile back but now is a good a time as ever so I turn to you as my brother for to help address. In a church I was a member of I felt great disdain towards some other members and elders. Our church was active in not only praying for those who happen to commit such atrocities as abortion but we were funding and supporting pro life organizations. However, within our midst, that is, within the walls of the church were not only members but elders that supported and voted into office those advocates which worked against our efforts. Every time we petitioned God on behalf of the innocent there were those men seated nearby which conspired against us. So you see not only do I pray as Paul urged us but also lament as the Psalmist while suffering the likes of Judas Iscariot which accept a bribe in one form or another. Which is the lesser of two evils? Worldly judges wielding evil over men or Christians in the name of Christ electing God forsaking persons into office? To me the question is answered when Jesus was handed over to stand trial before court and after a kiss on the cheek by Judas.
  6. I would be very leary of any first generation phone, regardless of how experienced the company is. There are always going to be bugs. Especially, with low to mid level entries.
  7. By Jay Peters Oct 19, 2019, 10:00am EDT The crowdfunded Pebble smartwatch officially died last June, but a group of dedicated Pebble fans are giving Pebbles second lives, as detailed in this great article on iFixit that you should go read. The Pebble launched to a record-breaking Kickstarter in 2012 because it looked like it had the potential to be the first good smartwatch. Part of the appeal was that it seemed ahead of its time — it could do things like show you notifications and help you control your phone’s music, which would become table stakes for smartwatches made by other companies in the years to come. But once the Apple Watch entered the market in 2015, it was game over for Pebble. The company was acquired by Fitbit in late 2016, and Fitbit eventually announced it would shut down Pebble’s web services, which included an app store, voice dictation, weather, and more. full article here:https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/19/20921584/pebble-smartwatches-second-life-rebble-alliance-fitbit-github-kickstarter
  8. Author: Brian [email protected] / 9:22 am EDT • October 19, 2019 Whatever you might say about HTC (and believe me, there’s plenty to say), at least the company takes some fascinating chance. As newly minted CEO Yves Maitre admitted to me at Disrupt a couple of weeks back, the once mighty smartphone giant has lost the thread in recent years. But if nothing else, the Exodus project marks a glimpse at some potential smartphone future. With this weekend’s launch of the Exodus 1s at Berlin’s Lightning conference, HTC aims to make it clear that the project is more than just a one-off. The new device lowers the barrier of entry to €219 (~$244). All said, not a bad price for those looking to dabble in the technology. Oh, and obviously it’s available in all of the various equivalent cryptocurrencies. full article here:https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/19/htc-launches-a-240-version-of-its-blockchain-phone/
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    Envy Ex 20:17 "You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." Pr 23:17,18 "Do not let your heart envy sinners, but always be zealous for the fear of the LORD. There is surely a future hope for you, and your hope will not be cut off." Envy is characteristically of the world. Prior to salvation Paul describes our natural condition where "At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another." Tit 3:3 The poor envy the rich, and the rich envy the richer, and no one thinks anything wrong of such desires. But God says that envying your neighbor is itself sin. It doesn't even require any action for it to be sin. One will be judged just for being envious - just for having the attitude. Thus Paul warns, "The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God." Gal 5:19-21 The Sin Series
  10. TRAIN A CHILD Pr 22:6 Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it. Eph 6:4 Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Gen 18:19 I have chosen Abraham, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is right and just, so that the LORD will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him. Deut 4:9 Be careful, and watch yourselves closely so that you do not forget the things your eyes have seen or let them slip from your heart as long as you live. Teach them to your children and to their children after them. A significant part of parenting involves training your children. If you have children, don't simply view it as other people's responsibility to train them. God holds you responsible to train them. When you become a parent, you take on the role of a teacher. So learn to teach well. And neither be too harsh and demanding, else they become discouraged, nor too lenient, else they become too lazy. Teaching involves not only transferring information. It also involves motivating your students. And it involves applying the information. The Proverb Series
  11. Too bad in the US the state is increasingly trying to dictate what is taught in public schools. This is leading to brain dead, liberal college students who suddenly start protesting things that their professors don't like, and on and on. We are home schooling our kids, because we can't afford a private Christian education, and absolutely refuse to send our kids to a public school. Homeschooling is growing steadily in the US, to the dismay of the state run education system. Of course it depends on the state, but many of the more conservative states do not have much in the way of restrictions on home schooling.
  12. I do not accept the Catholic Bible and their extra books that have been added, I'm simply stating their position. I use to and was raised Catholic so I thought it would be of interest to the forum, however if you wish I won't post anymore on this issues.
  13. Personally I prefer the state to stay away from religious matters. When I'm looking for a plumber I want to know if he or she knows a u bend from a ball cock, a lawyer to know what the law is and a mechanic to know the workings of the internal combustion engine. Whether they are church attendees is of little relevance. In too many countries the electorate vote along religious, ethnic or tribal lines. What they're saying is, I don't care about your policies but I do / don't like your lineage, the church, temple or mosque you claim to attend. That leads to politicians that believe they can do what they want because they know that come the next they're virtually guaranteed to be back in office. That's why corrupt regimes flourish. Another example is the comparison between the state education system in the UK and the USA. In the UK the Church runs a large proportion of the state schools, which for a Christian parent in theory sounds great. In the USA as I understand it the church is prevented by law from meddling in education unless you pay for a church based private education. In practice in the UK it's the high church with all the bells and smells that run the Church of England schools. Attendance at these churches are often a prerequisite for entrance and mandatory for the kids on holy days like saints days, harvest festival, Christmas and Easter. High church services for kids of any age is almost inevitable boring and so reinforces their stereotype that all church is boring. Trying to undo that stereotype is a challenge. For me I prefer the US position on education, keep the state out of it, focus instead on learning and exams.
  14. Remember we are not to come to full our stomachs, but to remember our Savior. Now can you please pass me the butter?
  15. The church has always experienced tribulation from the world and the forces of Satan. A time is coming when God will pour out his wrath on the world and it will experience tribulation. The church will be removed before this happen. The account of Lot and the destruction of Sodom is an illustration of this. The angels could do nothing to Sodom until Lot was taken out of it.
  16. It comes down to diluting the bread and changing its natural flavor, impure or Virgin, Just like the first fruits of the Vine or Wine.
  17. I believe that a gay person can get saved, but just like the non gay person that comes to Christ, we must change and apply his Words to our life. Repent to our evil ways. No to gay marriages
  18. In 1 Timothy 2:1,2, Paul said, " First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way." Do you think this was the kind of prayer he had in mind?
  19. In the past I have posted articles and responses, most of which have been deleted, urging the Church not to be homophobic but rather to reach out to the gay community that they may be saved. Most of these drew a quite hostile and offensive response, but I still stand by what I said. On the subject of homosexuality too many Christians dispense with God's love and forgiveness and want to (metaphorically) have a public stoning to death. The OP's post addresses a totally different issue. In it a hypothetical church's leadership is pursuing a total change in direction, away from Biblical teachings and towards a libertarian, anything goes approach. Read Revelation 2 18:29. The letter to the Church of Thyatira. John doesn't tell the members to leave, he tells them to repent and boot out the offenders. I suppose it's more effective to oppose an attack of Satan on a church from within rather than driving past, shaking your head.
  20. I have to say that having read some of the responses to this post I'm left asking myself, 'Where is the love?' I to disagree with the tenant of the post, to me having a favourite record doesn't demean all other music. For me one of my favourite verses is - And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.” Luke 10:18‭-‬20 NKJV It conveys just a wee taste of the power of God in Heaven and on Earth. Back to the post. I detect maybe a dissatisfaction by the OP in his church's 'frothiness'. I'm probably wrong but if not I would encourage you to study the Bible and seek out ways you can share passages that you find meaningful and how they have helped you. Pray that God will give you these opportunities to share, maybe in prayer meetings, submit an a suggested article in the newsletter.
  21. Yes, the post-glacial rebound is still giving some new land to us, but the climate IS warming.
  22. I think of the guys that went to bars, got drunk and had some tattoo artist carving a figure into their skin that they weren't aware of until they awoke the next day. If I recall those tattoos back then were non removable as they are now . Ouch ! that was for life ! To bad they never knew it until it was too late. M
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    Same standard as when I served. Those were the days when the military cared about its image. We couldn't participate in parades wearing a uniform. If you know what I mean.
  24. I wouldn't have one of those things if my life depended on it . Seriously . I know that we aren't to pass judgment on anyone ,but when I see a young mother in the store with multiple tattoos all over her body, I have to wonder if the children will follow the trend . If a new convert joins our church with many tattoos , we treat him just as we would any other . We befriend him and know that tattoos won't keep him out of Heaven . I'm surprised to see that the military is allowing more of them now compared to when I served . I remember when L.A.P.D. had to wear long sleeve shirts year around to cover tattoos left over from their military days. No offense though . M
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